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Hopefully, that will help pacify those who might believe I am teaching some strange doctrine that women are to be nothing more than fence posts, because I believe women have a vital role in our society, most especially in the family unit. However, it is without doubt that women are NOT to have teaching authority over men in Christ's church specifically, and I will be arguing that all those who say otherwise are rebellious against the commandments of the Holy Ghost.
We will address counter arguments later in this teaching, but to lay the foundation of Biblical doctrine on this matter, let's go to 1st Timothy in chapter two, where the Holy Ghost instructs us through the writings of Paul, and I will start in verse eight to get the context:
I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
-1 Timothy 2:8
In Psalm 141:2, the lifting up of hands is compared to "the evening sacrifice." The sacrifices of the Jews were supposed to be done in repentance of sin with a pure heart (which they were not doing, and that is why God eventually told them their sacrifices were useless, Isa 1:13-16), and likewise, the lifting up of hands should be done in the humility of repentance when the heart yearns for connection with the Lord.
This is not to say that women cannot lift up their hands, but he is pointing out that when men lead, and choose to lift up their hands worship of God, it should be done with a genuine heart, not for show. Paul also taught that, if anyone does this, it should be done without contention, neither towards God, nor towards men (i.e. being at odds with brethren because of offenses, Mat 5:23), so that when a man is leading the church in prayer, there would be unity among them in submission, faithfulness, and praise to God. (Phil 2:2)
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
-1 Timothy 2:9
The Holy Ghost (through Paul) then commands women to dress in "modest apparel," which means to be neat, clean, and chaste, that is, free from attempt to appeal to sexual commerce, as would a female seeking a mate, or a whore seeking her next customer. This is in line with the teachings of the Jewish commentators of that day, who said the following as duty to honor the Lord, "
(See Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Shabbat [Laws of the Sabbath], 30:2-3, retrieved Oct 15, 2025, [https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Sabbath.30.2?lang=bi])
Paul (and likewise, 1 Peter 3:3) put restrictions on "broided" or "plaited" or what we know as "braided" hair, and that is because Jewish women would braid their hair for the purpose of daily business, but this should not be done in the setting of the public assembly of the church. Unbraided hair not only serves as a natural covering for her head (1Co 11:15), to show her submission to the authority of God and men, but also because her focus should be on the worship of God, in prayer and study of His Word, being a separate (or sanctified) activity from daily business.
For similar reasons, the Holy Spirit issued us instruction for women not to wear costly jewelry in the public meeting of the church. Expensive and flashy jewelry is appropriate for certain honorable occasions (Psa 45:9), but the Lord did not want this for the women in the church, that the females might attempt to draw away the attention of men from the Lord. God desires for women in the public assembly of the church to make their appearance reflect the goodness of Christ, based on the beauty, meekness, and modesty of His handiwork in the church, which Paul goes on to say in the next verse.
But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
-1 Timothy 2:10
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
-1 Timothy 2:11
The Holy Spirit commands Christian women to do this "with all subjection," meaning that they should willingly and gladly submit to the ordinaces of Christ. Females in the church are to be submissive to the authority over them, which includes the doctrines of Christ, the men who preach those doctrines, their own husbands, and their fathers and brothers, who are ordained to teach and lead the church for the good of all.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
-1 Timothy 2:12
usurp (v): to seize and hold in possession by force or without right
(See 'usurp', American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster, 1828, retrieved Oct 15, 2025, [webstersdictionary1828.com])
Those who erroneously teach that women have teaching authority in the church typically stop at verse 12, and try to justify themselves outside of God's Word. They tend to stop reading at this point and miss the fact that Paul explains the reason why this restriction is placed on women:
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
-1 Timothy 2:13
To this point, we should consider: Why did God not make Eve from the dust of the ground like He did with Adam? It was certainly within His power to do that, but He did it a different way. There could be many reasons given for why this is the case, but for the purpose of this teaching, it is because, being made from the man, she is then subservient to the man.
This is not so much about who was made first, because the animals were made before man, and yet, the animals are not superior in authority to man; rather, it was because the woman was made from the man that puts him in a superior position over her. Women are subjected to the authority of men by the laws of God's creation, even by the nature of their created being, with women being overall weaker and slower than men. (1Pe 3:7)
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
-1 Timothy 2:14
The Holy Spirit (through Paul) emphasize that it was woman who was deceived, not the man, and because women are more vulnerable to deception. If women were to teach the church, the church would also be more vulnerable to deception, as Paul wrote to Corinth:
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
-2 Corinthians 11:3
Satan did not go to Adam to deceive him because men are generally much stronger, more knowledgable, and have greater emotional guards to spot and avoid the pitfalls of fraudulent claims. Satan was wise enough to make his attempt on the woman, and it worked, demonstrating that men are more fit to rule with authority in domestic, governing, and spiritual matters.
Because of this, women were given a curse of punishment, in which they would be put even deeper under the authority of men. Not only would this be dependence and subjection to men, but the desire of women hinges on service to men, meaning that if women are not in submission and service to men, they will never be happy.
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
-Genesis 3:16
Please do not misunderstand because I am not arguing that men are never deceived, nor am I saying that there are not male false teachers. Certainly, there are many of them, as Jesus told us. (Mat 24:11) However, in the case of women having teaching authority over the church, there are NONE that are good because they are ALL rebellious and defiant against the Lord.
These regulations against women teaching in the church are reiterated in 1st Corinthians:
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
-1 Corinthians 14:34-35
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
-1 Corinthians 14:4-5
Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
-1 Corinthians 14:16-17
Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
-1 Corinthians 14:19
If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
-1 Corinthians 14:23
When Paul said "they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law," the law he is referring to is the law given by God to Adam and Eve after they sinned. Again, the law is that women are to be in submission to men, not usurping authority over them, and therefore, if a woman is usurping authority over men in the public assembly of the church, it is the duty of men AND women to put her in her place, or in other words, tell her, "thus saith the Lord, your duty is to sit down, shut up, listen, and learn during this meeting."
If the women of the church have a question, they can wait until afterwards to ask it. They can go to their husbands, and if they have no husband, their fathers, if not, their brothers, if not, the men of the church. After the meeting has ended, women should go to the men who have authority over them in their lives, and ask them about the doctrine of the Scripture and spiritual matters.
I have often heard rebellious churchgoers argue that if a woman is smart and well-educated in the Scriptures, then she should teach the church, but this is a fallacious argument because the church is to followed the commandments of the Holy Ghost in Scripture first and foremost. I could have 15 doctorate degrees from various prestigeous universities around the world, but if I do not have permission to teach in a college classroom, then I cannot teach them, and likewise, a woman could be the most knowledgable and understanding in the Scriptures among the entire church, but she does not have license to teach because God did not give her that permission.
What we think about a woman's ability is irrelevant. Churchgoers only argue ability over permission because they too are rebellious against the Word of God.
Because demonic feminist ideology has infected our American nation so deeply, some churchgoers might get emotional and turn this into a male vs female war, but such attitudes of contention are not tolerated in the church. The Holy Spirit (through Paul) taught us that neither the apostles, nor the churches, have any tradition of contention, and would not allow it in the church, being rid of it either by peaceful and rational discussion, or by removing the offender.
(Read Feminism: Castrating America here at creationliberty.com for more details.)
But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
-1 Corinthians 11:16
This subject is about authority.

The answer to that question depends on what is needed. Both are necessary depending on the subject matter, but in the wild, bulls have the authority over cows in the herd because there are differences between male and female roles based on God's created purpose for them.
The woman's role was declared during her creation:
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him... And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
-Genesis 2:18-23
meet (adj): fit, suitable, proper to use and purpose
help (n): aid, assistance
(See 'meet' & 'help', American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster, 1828, retrieved Oct 17, 2025 [webstersdictionary1828.com]).
For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
-1 Corinthians 11:7-9
Women are more naturally emotional because they are weaker than men, and this is why they need men as a safeguard. The emotions of the heart a deceitful, and desperately wicked, so if women are more attuned to follow the heart first before taking the time to reason with the mind, they will fall victim to lust and trickery, just as Eve was fooled by Satan.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and
desperately wicked: who can know it?
-Jeremiah 17:9
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:
but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
-Proverbs 28:26
Notice what God said to Adam after he ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge:
And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it:
-Genesis 3:17
These are laws given by God for our good, and if we love Him, we ought to keep His commandments.
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
-John 14:15
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
-John 15:10
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
-Galatians 3:26-28
Women also have no place to be elders/bishops in the church because, again, that would be women usurping authority that was not given to them.
For this cause left I [i.e. Paul] thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
-Titus 1:5
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
-Titus 1:6
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and
-1 Corinthians 11:3
Holding fast the faithful word as
-Titus 1:9
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
-1 Samuel 15:23
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
-Hosea 4:6
And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
-Mark 7:9

"While the New Testament does not tell us specifically what pastors did, we do know that both men andwomen provided spiritual leadership for churches which met in their homes. In the early church, almost all Christian meetings were held in private homes.Among these house-church pastors was Mary , the mother of John Mark, who later became a missionary with the apostles Paul and Barnabas. It was to her house church that Peter came in Acts 12:12 after an angelic visitor set him free from prison. The Bible says that many had assembled there and were praying, no doubt petitioning God for Peter's release. Their prayers were answered!"
-Kathryn Riss, "Women Pastors In The Early Church," God's Word to Women, retrieved Oct 17, 2025, [https://godswordtowomen.org/pastors.htm]
Though it is true that the word 'pastor' is not used much in the Scriptures, it is defined through context and correlating verses, even in Ephesians 4:11 if you read it carefully:
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
-Ephesians 4:11
(See Christopher J.E. Johnson's commentary on Ephesians 4:11 at creationliberty.com; See also 'pastor', Etymology Online Dictionary, retrieved Oct 21, 2025, [https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=pastor])
If we cross reference this with Jeremiah 3:15, we can see that a pastor's job is to "feed" the sheep "with knowledge and understanding" through study of God's Word:
And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.
-Jeremiah 3:15
Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock. The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
-Ezekiel 34:2-4
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little... the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
-Isaiah 28:10-13
And when he had considered the thing, he came to the house of Mary the mother of John, whose surname was Mark; where many were gathered together praying.
-Acts 12:12
The reason Kathryn contradicts herself is because some of the details she provided about Mary are completely made up. Fake preachers like Kathryn are cowards that reject public discourse because they do not want to be challened and debated on their doctrines, but if I were to debate her, I would simply ask her to provide the specifics of where the Bible says that Mary was a "
Do not make the mistake of thinking this is an isolated incident because Kathryn does this more than once. She makes up details that are not given in Scripture, crafting a fashionable lie to support her narrative, and this time it concerns Lydia:
"Acts 16:14-15... tells us about Lydia, Paul's first European convert to Jesus, who offered Paul hospitality in her home. Scripture relates that when Lydia was converted, her entire household was baptized and thather home became the first meeting place for European Christians . Lydia was a business woman who traded in valuable, dyed garments.The fact that Scripture mentions no husband or father indicates the high prominence of this woman ... By virtue of her position as head of household, Lydia had the opportunity and responsibility to lead all of its members to Christ andthen to establish and lead them in the faith. This put her in a similar position to the modern-day pastor... This may have been the first church planted on European soil, and its pastor was a woman. "
-Kathryn Riss, "Women Pastors In The Early Church," God's Word to Women, retrieved Oct 17, 2025, [https://godswordtowomen.org/pastors.htm]
This is riddled with lies and errors, and the first is the assumption that Lydia was "European" because the Bible never says that. This took place in the city of Thyatira in Asia minor, or what is known as Turkey in modern classification, which is more associated with Middle Eastern heritage, rather than European.
And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul. And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained [i.e. urged or compelled] us.
-Acts 16:14-15
Aside from these two verses, Lydia is only mentioned once more at the end of the chapter:
And they went out of the prison, and entered into the house of Lydia: and when they had seen the brethren, they comforted them, and departed.
-Acts 16:40
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Anything else beyond this list is speculation based on no evidence. Yet, Kathryn foolishly asserted many things she does not know.
She claimed that Lydia had "
Kathryn claims that Lydia "
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
-Hebrews 12:2
Again, none of these details are provided in the Scriptures, so we can safely conclude Kathryn crafted this narrative to support the corrupt ideology that women have teaching authority over the church. She has to lie to people to convince them of her "female pastor" narrative, otherwise she cannot justify her own paycheck.
Before we continue, I want Christians to understand that we are going to run into this fallacy quite often as we analyze the corrupt teachings of these leavened preachers. In logical terms, this is called the fallacy of presumption, which looks like this:
Although the United States Congress meets in Washington D.C., it does not mean that all those who live in D.C. are congressmen. To make the statement, one must put their foundation on assumption rather than evidence, and that is exactly what Kathryn did when talking about Mary:
Once simplified, we can see that these are ridiculous statements, but this is the childish mindset that many so-called "pastors" have today. The Scriptures indicate that Christians had gathered together in the homes of Mary and Lydia, but if people gather in a home for any religious reason, does it make the owner of that home a pastor by default? That is silly to say the least, but you might be shocked if you knew how often so-called "Christian" preachers make these kinds of fallacious arguments, having no concern if they are teaching lies, so long as it helps them gain prestige, increase attendance numbers, and make more money.
Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.
-1 Corinthians 14:20
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
-Ephesians 4:14
(Read "Denominations Are Unbiblical" at creationliberty.com for more detail.)

I found a video Keener produced called "Women in Ministry," and he started his video with an attack on those who disagree with him, but disguised it as a "warning." He misused Romans 1:30-32, which describes reprobates (i.e. those who are completely given over to their sin) who deserve death, but Keener deceitfully applied that to anyone who opposes his view on women being pastors.
(See Craig Keener, "Women in Ministry (1 hour)," Aug 26, 2023, retrieved Oct 21, 2025, [https://youtu.be/Q06uQR_0ul0])
Keener then argued that his Assemblies of God cult has over 27% female ministers (and the articles I looked at confirmed that number is accurate), but failed to define what he meant by "minister," and I firmly believe this is a vital part of his deception. The word 'minister' has a number of meanings, but it generally means "to serve," and can be applied in many ways.
(See Deann Alford, "Women Ordination Trend," Assemblies of God, May 24, 2022, retrieved Oct 21, 2025, [https://news.ag.org/en/article-repository/news/2022/05/women-ordination-trend])
minister (n): properly, a chief servant; hence, an agent appointed to transact or manage business under the authority of another
minister (v): to attend and serve
(See 'minister', American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster, 1828, retrieved Oct 21, 2025, [webstersdictionary1828.com])
My understanding is that the Assemblies of God cult uses the word 'minister' to encompass a wide variety of positions within their organization (some of which are man-made), these include, but are not limited to missionaries, chaplains, educators, evangelists, and other administrative roles. Since Keener does not define his terms, I will move forward under the assumption that by "minister," he is referring to women that have inserted themselves into teaching authority over the men in the church, but keep in mind that some of them only have a secretarial position. I have no objection to women doing paperwork, distributing to the poor, or even handing out tracts and preaching the truth to unbelievers (albiet, they should not do such things outside the authority and protection of men when possible), but I have a strong objection to women having teaching authority over the church, which we will hereafter refer to as a "minister."
Keener argued that women have been ordained ministers for hundreds of years in various religious institutions, but that is a logical fallacy called "appeal to tradition"—just because people have been doing something for a long time does not make it right by default. The Catholic cult has been teaching their witchcraft of transubstantiation in their demonic Eucharist for 1700 years, and they are still as wrong today as they were in the year 325.
(Read Corruptions of Christianity: Catholicism at creationliberty.com for more details.)
Keener also argued that "
The word 'prophesy' can also mean the ordinary sense in which a man studies the Word of God, and delivers the understanding to the people, which is part of teaching. The prophets who are given dreams or visions from angels are not teaching, but delivering messages, and by doing so, they are not claiming to having teaching authority.
Keener then shows the following slide in his presentation, and it is extremely deceptive because the majority of his list of examples of female "ministers" are the miraculous seer prophets:

There is a lot of deceit to break down in this one slide, and we will begin by looking at how he separates "for women's ministry" versus "against women's ministry," and remember, we are now defining the word 'ministry' as one who has teaching authority over the church. On the right-hand side, Keener confesses that the Scriptures condemn women having teaching authority over the church, then contrasts that with a list of female prophets, and concludes an appeal to majority fallacy, claiming that because there are more examples of women being prophets in Scripture than verses talking about women not being ministers, then that justifies women being ministers.
I have already addressed the fallacy that women prophesying does not conclude that women have teaching authority over the church, but this convoluted insanity gets worse when we look the bottom of his list. We see that he mentioned Deborah as justification for women having teaching authority over the church.
Putting aside the fact that Deborah lived before the church was established by Christ (through the Holy Ghost) on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2, she was a prophetess and judge in Israel, which was extraordinarily rare. A rare occurance does not necessarily set precedent, but that being said, Deborah (the wife of Lapidoth, Jdg 4:4) was a faithful and courageous judge that handled civil disputes in the open under a palm tree (with the same name, Deborah, Jdg 4:5), and counseled people in difficult matters, but she was not a religious authority over Israel.
Keener included Deborah as a justification to say that women have teaching authority over the church, despite the fact that Deborah never had teaching authority over the church. This is why I say that Keener is deceptive in his doctrine, and he knows the average listener will not investigate the details.
Keener also deceived his listeners by putting Junia in his list and calling her "
Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
-Romans 16:7
(Read Why Christians Should Study the King James Bible at creationliberty.com for more details.)
Paul mentioned that Junia was a "kinsmen," which would indicate something more than being Jewish. He could mean some distance blood relative, or perhaps they were also of the tribe of Benjamin, but again, we do not have enough details to know for sure; only that he considered it significant enough to mention.
Paul then says they were "fellowprisoners," meaning that they were also imprisoned for the sake of Christ, but this would be noted because they were in prison with him at the same time in the same location. It is uncertain which location that would be, although Corinth would be likely since Paul was put in prison several times in that city.
Finally, Paul says they were "of note among the apostles," which does NOT mean they were apostles; rather, they were "of note," meaning they were followers and helpers of the apostles. This is why the apostles knew their names, and why they were fellowprisoners, because being publicly associated with the apostles would land them in jail alongside the apostles.
Assuming Junia is a female for the sake of argument, I wanted to know Keener's justification for her being an apostle. Unsurprisingly, Keener does not go to the Scriptures, but rather, he goes to heretic John Chrysostom, saying in one of his slides that "
(See Craig Keener, "Women in Ministry (1 hour)," Aug 26, 2023, retrieved Oct 21, 2025, [https://youtu.be/Q06uQR_0ul0?t=1246])
John Chrysostom was a 4th century scholar of Orthodoxy/Catholicism, and without getting into too many details, he worshipped Mary as a goddess, participated in the antichrist Eucharist, believing the witchcraft of Catholicism and Orthodoxy would save him, and prayed to dead men for his spiritual help. In short, he was not a Christian, but is paraded as one by so-called "scholars" in modern academia. These demonic religious cults still worship Chrysostom to this day (i.e. they literally pray to him), among many other deceased heretics, and if any readers want to learn more about that, I cover it in much greater detail in my free-to-read book, Corruptions of Christianity: Orthodoxy.
So what was Chrysostom's evidence that Junia was an apostle? The same as Keener's alleged "evidence," namely, Chrysostom simply declared she was an apostle on nothing more than his opinion:
"And indeed to be apostles at all is a great thing. But to be even among these of note, just consider what a great encomium this is! But they were of note owing to their works, to their achievements. Oh!How great is the devotion of this woman, that she should be even counted worthy of the appellation [i.e. name or designation] of apostle! "
-John Chrysostom, "Homily 31 on Romans," New Advent, retrieved Oct 22, 2025, [https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/210231.htm]
Again, the Scriptures never say that Andronicus and Junia were apostles, but that they were "of note" among the apostles, meaning that the apostles knew of them because of they were of great help to them. So now that we know Keener and Chrysostom are both basing their conclusions on nothing more than their speculation, on what basis do I declare that Junia was NOT an apostle?
In the first place, it is not my responsibility to provide an argument for a negative position; rather, it is Keener's responsibility to provide evidence for his positive claim, but he fails to do so. Despite his ridiculous assumptions and failure to provide evidence for his argument, I will provide some Scriptural evidence to shut him down completely:
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp
authority over the man, but to be in silence.
-1 Timothy 2:12
Keener attempts another ridiculous argument by claiming that Phebe was a deacon, having authority over men in the church, but once again, there is no evidence for this. The Bible only says that Phebe was a servant:
I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a
servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:
-Romans 16:1
If women were intended by Christ to be in teaching authority over the church, then why were His chosen twelve disciples all men? Why would one of them not be a female?
Keener also argued that Mary was in teaching authority over the church because she sat at Jesus' feet:
And she had a sister called Mary, which also
sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
-Luke 10:39
This is not complicated. It does not require a doctorate in religious studies to comprehend. This only becomes complicated when heretics like Keener insert their corrupt ideology to justify rebellious feminists leading their religious cult.
False preacher Gregory Koukl, founder of Stand to Reason Ministries, confesses having some personal struggle with Paul's rebuke of female pastors in 1st Timothy 2, so to avoid having to tell rebellious feminists to sit down and shut up, he claims the Word of God is mistranslated:

"I personally think the word 'men' and 'women' are mistranslated here. "
-Gregory Koukl, "Should Women Teach in Church?" Stand To Reason, Mar 12, 2013, retrieved Oct 23, 2025, [https://www.str.org/w/should-women-teach-in-church-#.VVI67PlVhBc]
It is not that I will defend Greg on his use of a corrupt bible version, because he chose to rely on the watered-down NASV, but to say that the Bible is wrong, and that he is the sole scholar who knows the truth, is quite extreme, to the point of insanity. The reason Greg has to go to extreme lengths is to justify his cult having a female pastor.
"For instance, we have a male pastor and a male council in our church.No women are allowed on the council, but we do have female pastors because they are under the leadership of the male head pastor and a male council. "
-Gregory Koukl, "Should Women Teach in Church?" Stand To Reason, Mar 12, 2013, retrieved Oct 23, 2025, [https://www.str.org/w/should-women-teach-in-church-#.VVI67PlVhBc]
Greg's article is a little convoluted, but to summarize, he believes that words "man" and "woman" in the text of 1st Timothy 2:12 should be read "husband" and "wife," in the sense that this only applies within a husband and wife relationship. To adopt this false doctrine, one must first ignore the context of verse seven that we learned about at the beginning of this teaching, in which Paul is referring to teaching authority over the church.
The context is further demonstrated in chapter one, where Paul says he is giving instructions to Timothy about teaching in the church:
As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine, Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling [i.e. noisy discord and quarreling]; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
-1 Timothy 1:3-7
With that context in mind, the text of 1st Timothy 2:12 is very clear that "I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man," and notice that it does NOT say that woman can have teaching authority over the church if a man says so. Paul said he would not tolerate it, NOR (i.e. neither) would he tolerate a woman usurping authority over men in the church in any other capacity.
This is why I find it hilarious when these false teachers use the female prophets of Scripture as a justification to defy this instruction from the Holy Ghost. A seer prophet is a messenger, and messengers are not in a position of authority unless they decided they were going to sit on the throne of the king to make decrees while delivering the message, and likewise, a woman can prophesy as much as a man (so long as either have legitimately received it by the will of God) without standing behind a pulpit to usurp teaching authority over the church.
Instead of having the boldness to declare a fact and back up his statement with evidence to prove it, Greg prefaces his ridiculous idea with "
Greg concludes by saying:
"1 Timothy 2 talks about the relationship between husband and wife; it's chapter 3 that talks about church leadership. "
-Gregory Koukl, "Should Women Teach in Church?" Stand To Reason, Mar 12, 2013, retrieved Oct 23, 2025, [https://www.str.org/w/should-women-teach-in-church-#.VVI67PlVhBc]
1st Timothy 2 was not talking about a husband and wife relationship, but Greg asserted that it was because he first assumed (without evidence) that it was talking about a husband and wife in that context. Adam and Eve were husband and wife, but the context was talking about the nature of their created beings as the foundation of reason for why the man is in superior authority over the woman. In summary, Greg changed the text to his liking, and then asserted that his distorted version of the text was correct without understanding the context of the book and chapter.
Many other pastors just make up their own rules and state them as if they, as mere men, are the final authority in all matters of faith and practice. For example, false preacher Ray Stedman of Peninsula Bible Church said:

"From the viewpoint of spiritual gifts it seems clear that 'in Christ there is neither male nor female' and God expects every woman to have a ministry as much as he expects every male to have one. "
-Ray C. Stedman, "Should a Woman Teach in Church?" Discovery Publishing & Peninsula Bible Church, Nov 21, 1976, retrieved Oct 24, 2025, [http://www.ldolphin.org/woteach.html]
Stedman is referring to Galatians 3, and let's read that first:
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
-Galatians 3:28
Once again, quoting from 1st Corinthians 11:
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
-1 Corinthians 11:3
Certainly, in the spirit, there is no male and female, because God designed male and female for creatures living in this world. That which is in heaven is different than that which is here on earth, and therefore, when we enter heaven, in the spirit, there will be no more separations between Jew and Greek, bond and free, or male and female, but until that time, there are separations, boundaries, and rules.
Stedman then attempts to deceive his audience in the following statement. Keep in mind, he is talking about the context of 1st Timothy 2:
"These words cannot be taken as an absolute (no woman should ever teach a man) for if that were true Paul should have rebuked Priscilla for having a part in instructing Apollos. "
-Ray C. Stedman, "Should a Woman Teach in Church?" Discovery Publishing & Peninsula Bible Church, Nov 21, 1976, retrieved Oct 24, 2025, [http://www.ldolphin.org/woteach.html]
He missed the fact that the second chapter of 1st Timothy is referring to teaching authority over the church, which is not what Priscilla did. Stedman is referring to Acts 18, so let's read that passage:
And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty [i.e. in this context, well-studied] in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
-Acts 18:24-26
I find it interesting that Stedman did not mention Aquila in his article. Aquila and Priscilla were married, they worked together, and they were close friends of Paul, working with him and the rest of the church as needed. Priscilla gave no instruction to Apollos apart from her husband, but even if she had, there was no offense because she was not usurping teaching authority over the church by privately informing Apollos about the death and resurrection of Christ.
However, Stedman uses deceptive interpretation to justify his belief that women have teaching authority over the church. Based on his faulty doctrine, he concludes:
"Women can teach within the context of church meetings. They are certainly free to teach children and other women without question, but are free to teach men as well if what they are teaching is not a challenge to the understanding of doctrine held by the elders of the church. Many godly and instructed women know far more about the Scriptures then many men and it would be both absurd and unscriptural to forbid such men to learn from such women. Even the elders should recognize the often unique and godly insights of gifted women teachers and should seek their input in arriving at an understanding of the Scriptures. It is, however, the duty of elders to make the final decision of what is to be taught. No woman may participate in this."
-Ray C. Stedman, "Should a Woman Teach in Church?" Discovery Publishing & Peninsula Bible Church, Nov 21, 1976, retrieved Oct 24, 2025, [http://www.ldolphin.org/woteach.html]
This is strangely worded, and it causes me to question what he actually believes because much of this is also nonsensical and redundant. For example, he says that women can teach other women and children, but then puts a restriction of eldership authority specifically over women teaching men in the church, which was confusing because it seems to indicate that women and children can be taught by female teachers outside the authority of the elders; or that eldership authority only applies to women when they are teaching men.
Some people argue about women teaching what is known as "Sunday school" classes, which was an American movement started in the 19th century as extra education in God's Word, and was led by men. However, as feminism became prominent in the 20th century, lazy and spineless simps started allowing women to pick up the role of teaching "Sunday school" and taking children out of the primary assembly of preaching.
This then leads to the next redundency, that if women are not allowed to "
If a woman has to go to the men to get approval, then how can you claim it is "
Corrupt preacher James Choung of InterVarsity Christian Fellowship tells us that God's Word is not clear enough on this matter to be understood by the average Christian reader:

"[T]he Bible is unclear about the prohibitions on a woman's leadership and teaching . But, the rigorous study of the Scriptures—and not the dismissal of problem passages—led me to believe thatwomen should be able to lead and teach at all levels of the Christian community. So, men, allow the women to lead and teach, even when they are called to the senior pastor position. "
-James Choung, "May Women Teach?" jameschoung.net, retrieved Oct 24, 2025, [https://jameschoung.net/may-women-teach.pdf]
What James is implying by his caveat—"
This is a sly attempt to poison the well, a logical fallacy in which someone attempts to discredit a person before they speak, so others will dismiss their arguments before being heard. The passages they offer are not "problems," but rather, these fake preachers create problems by ignoring context and correlating verses, and I believe I have been thorough in disproving their claims.
The reality is that there is a current political climate about women being CEO girl bosses that "don't need no man," and a pastor is subject to harassment by women if he has the courage to put them in their place. So corrupt men like James Choung attempt to discredit preachers like me, so people will not take me seriously when I point out the truth about him, namely, that is he a spineless pansy simp that will not shut down shrieking females.
It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop,
than with a brawling woman in a wide house.
-Proverbs 21:9
The fear of man bringeth a snare:
but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.
-Proverbs 29:25
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
-Colossians 3:22
MULDOON: "Thank you tonight, I appreciate you very, very much. God bless you, you wanted to say something?"
RODRUIGUEZ: "I just wanted to say that yes, I did talk with her last night, and I didn't know much about her ministry. She was kind enough to give me as many materials as she could on the spot, and her men were perfect gentlemen to me inside. And for the rest of these seven days she's here, any of you that come, and any of our friends that come, we need to be deeply respectful, we need to show an intense love to them, but above all of those things, we need to spend all of our time at the deepest place of prayer, praying thatGod would indeed protect all those who hear this false message that comes from her lips. Because God's message is not miracles, but that the shed blood of Jesus Christ would cleanse humble sinners, and when miracles are emphasized, Jesus is denied. "
-Scott Rodruiguez, "Local Pastor Calls Out False Teacher," Jamie Coyner, May 16, 2012, retrieved, Oct 28, 2025, [https://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=0B902MNU]
My understanding of Dayna is she is a false prophetess who preaches a false prosperity gospel with a heavy focus on miraculous signs (which Jesus rebuked as wicked, Mat 16:4), as well as the "name-it-and-claim-it" doctrine that you can speak whatever you want into existence (which is a principle of witchcraft). Scott was completely justified to rebuke her for these things, and I am thankful to God that he was given opportunity to do so live at one of her meetings, but he should not have had to do that because women are not permitted teaching authority over Christ's church.
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
-Titus 2:14-15
The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
-Psalm 118:6

If I heard correctly, one woman was yelling "Traitor!" at Scott repeatedly. Can you find any example in Scripture where the church ganged up on a single person to lay hands on them, run them out of a building, while yelling "Traitor!" over and over?
Dayna immediately began yelling railing accusations as Scott, just like a typical scornful woman:
"And his blood is upon his hands, not mine. We thank you Father God in Jesus' name, you are rebuked! You are removed from my tent! And if you don't believe in miracles, you will need a miracle one day... and when he needs it, he'll know not to come to my church. "
-Scott Rodruiguez, "Local Pastor Calls Out False Teacher," Jamie Coyner, May 16, 2012, retrieved, Oct 28, 2025, [https://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=0B902MNU]
Dayna clearly panicked because she started saying things to try and make herself look better, but because of the emotional outburst of the audience, no one had a moment to think about the nonsensical things that came out of her mouth. Scott had just said "
When I read the Bible, I see that those who trust in the Lord Jesus Christ with a repentant heart gain eternal life, but not according to Dayna because she accused Scott of not believing in miracles, even though Scott never said that. In fact, the opposite is true because if Scott trusts in the shed blood of Christ for the remission of sins (as he seems to believe), then he trusts in the miracle of Christ's sacrifice on the cross and resurrection from the dead, demonstrating that Dayna speaks first and makes up lies to justify herself later.
Worst of all was Dayna's declaration that the the church belonged to HER, saying, "
There should have been men there to shut the women down and put them in their place, but it is almost pointless for me to say that because if there were, then that heretical hootenanny would have never occurred. Men often go unappreciated for their discipline to prevent dangerous and harmful things from taking place, and this incident is an excellent example of why women need to trust men need to step in and put their foot down before these female fanatics get out of control.

In our church, we have some very thoughtful and understanding women that I enjoy having conversations with, but when it comes to teaching authority over the church, I do not have to rebuke or correct them. The women in our church understand their position clearly, and they submit to the teaching authority of the men in the church, willingly and cheerfully, without bickering and contention, because they love the Lord Jesus Christ, and serve Him first and foremost.
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
-John 14:15
This is about women vs God.
Perhaps some readers feel torn by this teaching because you have heard a female pastor preach a message that was true, and you may have learned something from it. However, that does not make it right, nor does it mean she is doing good, and to demonstrate my point, let's take a closer look at Acts 16:
And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days.
-Acts 16:16-17
For a few days, Paul held his peace, but after a time, he could no longer hold back because, despite the fact that she spoke the truth, there was evil within her:
But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour. And when her masters saw that the hope of their gains was gone, they caught Paul and Silas, and drew them into the marketplace unto the rulers, And brought them to the magistrates, saying, These men, being Jews, do exceedingly trouble our city,
-Acts 16:18-20
The ministers of Satan can dress themselves to look the part of a pastor, but that does not change the inner corruption:
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
-2 Corinthians 11:13-15
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man,
but the end thereof are the ways of death.
-Proverbs 14:12
Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here
this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.
-Deuteronomy 12:8
Every way of a man is right in his own eyes:
but the LORD pondereth the hearts.
-Proverbs 21:2
The heart is deceitful above all things, and
desperately wicked: who can know it?
-Jeremiah 17:9
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:
but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
-Proverbs 28:26
Wherefore let him that thinketh
he standeth take heed lest he fall.
-1 Corinthians 10:12
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten:
be zealous therefore, and repent.
-Revelation 3:19
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth,
and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
-Hebrews 12:6
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
-Hebrews 12:7-9
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
-Romans 16:17-18
Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
-1 Corinthians 5:6-7
Those who follow female pastors are weak in the faith, and because of this, they do not have the strength to stand firm on the Word of God. Because of this, they will not hear when you preach sound doctrine to them—walking them through the Scrpitures verse by verse—and they will instead turn to masses of false teachers, yearning to hear the lies that make them feel good.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
-2 Timothy 4:3-4
It is for the same reason that Eve took that fruit from Satan and ate it. Eve chose to ignore the commandments of God and men, and to usurp authority for herself, so she could be praised, honored, glorified, and worshiped.
And this brings us to the final verse of 1st Timothy 2, which I have purposefully left for the end of this teaching, and it is often misunderstood:
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
-1 Timothy 2:15
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
-Ephesians 2:8-9
This is to be a comfort to women, that although the fall of man was brought about by the weakness, foolishness, and selfishness of a woman, if she lives according to law of charity, which first requires a humble, repentant heart of faith in Christ (Mat 3:8), she will be saved by the grace of God. Though the Messiah has been born, preached to men, died, and has risen from the dead, women still play a role in that they, with much pain (accepting their curse), give birth to children in submission to their husbands, and raise those children to understand the doctrine of the Messiah, who was born of a woman.
(Read There is No Saving Grace Without Repentance at creationliberty.com for more details.)
Furthermore, the position of a wife in cheerful obedience to her husband teaches the analogy of the marriage of the Lamb to His church.
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
-Revelation 19:9
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
-Revelation 21:9
The analogy is drawn from a marriage, or rather, it is better said that it ought to be drawn from a marraige. The husband ought to love his wife in the same way as Christ loves the church, by sacrificing for her (Eph 5:25), while the wife ought to reverence her husband, which means she ought treat him as would a servant to her king.
Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she
-Ephesians 5:33
reverence (v): to regard with reverence; to regard with fear mingled with respect and affection
(See 'reverence', American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster, 1828, retrieved Oct 29, 2025, [webstersdictionary1828.com])
Because Christ gave us this analogy, it allows husbands in a marriage to demonstrate how Christ treats the church, by daily acting with patience, kindness, and longsuffering, being a teacher who provides and protect with grace. Likewise, wives can demonstrate how the church should love the Lord Jesus Christ by daily submission to her husband's will and pleasure, fearing him with affection, and cheerfully disciplining herself to duties in service to him, while humbly receiving his provision and gifts with thanksgiving.
Because of the infection of the feminist plague in America, young girls are taught that they are always safe and can do all things men can do. They are deceived into believing that they have no responsibilities as females, and can do whatever they want without any respect for the men around them who sweat, toil, and sacrifice daily to make sure we have a safe society with plenty of provisions.
Men do the following jobs:
- Oil Rig Workers: Men extract crude oil and natural gas in remote offshore platforms or onshore fields, enduring shifts of 12 hours or more at a time in extreme weather conditions, with high risk of explosions, and isolation away from family and friends to fuel American cars and provide and electricity for homes.
- Underground Coal Miners: Men extract coal by descending into thousands of feet of dark, cramped tunnels, facing constant threat of cave-ins, methane explosions, disease, and flooding, to provide fuel for steel production, electricity, and various industrial needs.
- High-Voltage Linemen: Men climb poles over 100 ft (30m) tall or work from helicopter buckets, sometimes in violent weather, risking up to 500,000 volts of electrocution to maintain an uninterrupted power supply to communication networks, factories, and hospitals.
- Structural Ironworkers: Men walk narrow steel beams hundreds of stories above ground, welding and bolting in harsh weather conditions, without safety nets, to build bridges, stadiums, and office buildings for trade and economic growth.
- Military Special Operations Forces: Men conduct high-risk combat missions in hostile territories, where risk of injury and death is extremely high, to counter enemy forces, rescue hostages, and safeguard national security to keep our country safe.
Because American women do not have these difficult duties, nor do they witness men doing them, they assume everything happens automatically without any sacrifice. Thus, a significant number of women become arrogant, with contention and backbiting towards the men around them, who work daily to ensure the women who hate them can live comfortably.
(Read Feminism: Castrating America at creationliberty.com for more details.)
This results in women not reverencing their husbands as they are instructed by God in the Scriptures, and there are consequences for that, both in this world and the next. Because of Christ's analogy, when women in the church usurp teaching authority over men, they are setting an example for the church to usurp teaching authority over Jesus, and we can see the results of that philosophy if we look at how many churchgoers are preaching a false gospel on salvation.
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
-Ephesians 5:22
Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.
-1 Corinthians 16:13
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
-Colossians 3:18-20
And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
-Hebrews 6:11
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
-2 Corinthians 13:5
That being said, women cannot be feminine in this world without the stronghold of masculine men to support them, similar to how a flower cannot grow without the soil upon which it stands and receives sustenance. Because the growth of the family requires the sacrifice men, to be strong and vigilent in their duties, it stands to reason that authority should be placed in men, which is not to say that women cannot lead in certain circumstances, but females have absolutely no place in leadership and teaching authority in the church, so says the Lord.
If a woman claiming to be of Christ refuses to submit to the authority of the Lord in this matter, then she should depart, or be removed. This is the only way to prevent her from poisoning the church with her leaven and contention.
As a Christian, if you see another church building with a female pastor, what should you do? Do as I have done, which is to preach the truth publicly to those who will hear, pointing out those who operate contrary to God's Word, but for the congregation of heretics following a rebellious feminist, we should leave them be and have no part with them, for the Lord God sees all, and will handle them according to His will in due time.
But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
-Matthew 15:13-14
If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies, Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
-Philippians 2:1-4









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