Michelle from WA

10-29-23 | Michelle from WA

Email Sent To:
Christopher J. E. Johnson
Date: Oct 29, 2023
[creationliberty.com]

Oct 29, 2023
Michelle from Washington:

Just found your website and have been listening to your 5013c info. Just read your info on abortion and I don't understand why you call it a waste of time for Christ followers to stand at abortion clinics. Are we not to love our neighbors as ourselves? It wouldn't be very loving to ignore the slaughter of our time. Have you seen all the abolitionists of abortion that bring the gospel to those clinics daily and daily babies are saved?? I follow many of them on fb and most have live videos every day so I see them being saved daily. I myself have gone out to these demonic centers and have been able to share the gospel and have seen God work miraculously in some areas. I have seen moms choose life because the signs were there, and believers there offering help.

If you don't understand why I said that, and you want an explanation, I have an entire teaching on abortion along with an audio series that you can listen, where I explain it in a lot of detail, and if that's not enough, then you can always ask me for it, but there's nothing about your letter that remotely indicates that you care about why I said what I said. You only followed up a statement with some rhetorical questions, which indicates that you have no intention of discussing this matter. It seems you only care about convincing me of your position, and if that's the case, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by this, so you'll have to clarify that for me.

Hello, thanks for responding! I did read the article, and I will listen to the podcast audio to see if that helps, but my questions for you were genuine. I am really curious why, as I stated in my message regarding how I did not understand. I thought you would explain it more in depth, so I am honestly just trying to understand. I have never heard this take on it. I know you said that signs won't quickly change a mindset to pro life, and I agree, but what I am asking is why you think it's a waste of time when babies lives are saved? Please explain. I know for a fact that when Christ followers don't show up to these kill mills, all babies that are scheduled to die that day will, but when people show up to share the gospel and offer help, some of them will live. I don't see how that could be a waste of time in any way?

what I am asking is why you think it's a waste of time when babies lives are saved?
I don't know where I said that. If that is something you think I said, write down the quote (or give me the time stamp of the video) where I said that, so I can understand what you're referring to.

TWO DAYS LATER, AFTER NO RESPONSE, I WROTE HER AGAIN:

I'll wait. Whenever you get me that quote, we'll talk about it.

END OF DISCUSSION

MY PERSONAL NOTES:
I never heard back from her again. This woman lied to me and used loaded, rhetorical statements (with question marks at the end, designed to deceive) as her argument.

Michelle is one of many people who write to me saying that they found my website by researching information on 501c3. This is one of the reasons why I debated not writing a book on the subject; simply because I knew that a bunch of disgruntled churchgoers would end up contacting me at regular intervals over the course of many years. This is because they will agree with my general position on 501c3 (without reading the whole book or listening to the entire teaching to get the full information before drawing conclusions, stopping before they understand the core problem), only to continue to look at my website, and find out that I rebuke their favorite false preacher/prophet, or their beloved political hot topic.

Michelle claimed that she read the entire article I have available on the abortion subject, in which I go into the very deep details behind the abortion movement. This proves my point that churchgoers search my site looking for political hot topics—Michelle went from 501c3 to abortion, which is a common search proceedure for churchgoers, but no investigation into what I teach on the Gospel of Salvation because they don't care about that topic. Apparently, she must have skimmed over most of the article because she clearly did not understand what was being said.

As soon as I read the first couple of sentences of her letter, I knew this was a waste of my time. The reason is because she was accusing me of an assortment of things I did not say, and despite the fact that she fervently told me that she really wanted to have a conversation with me, the second I requested that she quote me on what I wrote or siad, she ghosted me, and I could not count the amount of times that this has happened to me in email conversation; I simply ask for quotes, and I never hear back from the person again, which is a strong indication of someone who makes decisions based on their feelings instead of facts.

To give an example of a rhetorical question, she wrote:
Have you seen all the abolitionists of abortion that bring the gospel to those clinics daily and daily babies are saved?
Either Michelle lied to me that she was not asking rhetorical questions, or she does not know what a rhetorical question is:

rhetorical (adj): used for, belonging to, or concerned with mere style or effect, rather than truth, substance, or meaning

As I told her in the letter, Michelle did not ask me that question looking for an answer. She was not probing me for information. Rather, if she was going to be more straight-forward and honest, she should have said:
I have seen all the abolitionists of abortion that bring the gospel to those clinics daily and daily babies are saved.
Assuming that is true (because I cannot ascertain if it is), that is not what I was referring to in my article on abortion. I would encourage you all to read it (or listen to the teaching series) for yourself so you can see what I mean. I addressed the problems from a political standpoint, and the fact that most churchgoers have no clue about the real battle that is being fought—that standing around with picket signs that read "abortion is murder" does not fight against the root cause (which is the witchcraft and child sacrifice that goes on behind closed doors)—therefore, they are wasting their time to push an agenda that happens to be a political hot topic right now, rather than fighting the root cause of the abortion movement, which is partially witchcraft and partially feminism (i.e. two religious ideologies that go hand in glove).
(Read Feminism: Castrating America here at creationliberty.com for more details.)

Abortion has only grown over the years and continues to grow because of the corrupt philosophies taught to children (especially young girls) and the demonic agenda that is active behind the scenes. No one is arguing that a woman may have been persuaded (at least for a time) to not kill her baby because of people standing in front of a Planned Parenthood building, and I never condemned people who do that, but that does not mean that the people in the protest have a good understanding.

If Michelle had read my article in full, she would know that. However, she followed up her so-called "question" in her first letter with a bunch of statements saying that she had been there and seen all these things, and then she followed that up with nothing.

That was the end of her first letter. The letter had no conclusion, which leaves us to conclude that her true intention in this letter was to say to me, as I would translate: "The fact that you wrote that article means you don't love your neighbor like a Christian should, so explain to me why you don't." That's a loaded question.

This is why I responded to her the way I did. She did not want to have a conversation (i.e. meaning that she lied to me about her intentions), and she proved that by running away the moment she was called to provide evidence of her accusation. I knew from her first letter that she was accusing me of saying things I didn't say.

Don't misunderstand; I have no problem with being accused of something. There is always the possibility that I said or did something wrong, but what I do have a problem with is something accusing me of arguing something I did not argue; otherwise known as a "strawman" fallacy.

In her second letter, she says:
I know you said that signs won't quickly change a mindset to pro life, and I agree, but what I am asking is why you think it's a waste of time when babies lives are saved?
Again, this is a presumption. She is presuming that a sign that reads "abortion is murder" saved a baby's life. If that was the case, why could you not just hammer the sign into the ground, and leave it there. If signs saved the babies, why have the people there?

What saves a baby's life? Women getting support. Where does that happen? In pro-life help centers.

Am I saying it's wrong to go out and try to help women? No. I don't believe I've ever said that. I'm saying that most of the people who hold up these signs don't have a clue where to find the root of the fight, nor how to address it.

So what Michelle did is claim (falsely) that I said that "it's a waste of time when babies lives are saved," but I NEVER made such a statement, meaning that she is falsely accusing me. That's why I simply responded by asking her to quote me, and from her silence, I can gather that either she didn't do her homework, she's lazy, she's embarrassed because she realized her error, or all of the above.

She then makes another presumptuous statement:
I know for a fact that when Christ followers don't show up to these kill mills, all babies that are scheduled to die that day will, but when people show up to share the gospel and offer help, some of them will live. Michelle's statement is hilarious because how did Michell prove that she "knew it for a fact when she wasn't there to verify the fact? She doesn't know that all of them will die that day because, based on testimonies I've read, a substantial amount of mothers change their minds once they get inside the "clinic" because the reality of what they are about to do sets in.

So Michelle saying, "If we're not there, they die" is factually incorrect. It is not known if the child will live or die whether people are outside or not, albeit, I could concede that the chances of survival are slightly higher if there is pressure from the public, but the point I was making in my teaching is that most of the churchgoers standing in front of these clinics do not know the Gospel of Salvation in Jesus Christ, so how are they "sharing the gospel" as Michelle claimed?

Just like those who don't understand the Gospel will hold up a "Jesus Saves" sign (instead of preaching the law to lost sinners as Jesus and His apostles taught us), likewise, those who don't understand the core problem underlying in these clinics hold up "abortion is murder" signs. I can understand the sentiment and appeal to using those signs, but while there is a battle to be fought on a surface level of getting women help, there is a bigger underlying battle to be fought against feminist ideology and child sacrifice.

Frankly, I believe that the pro-life centers who offer women help in a variety of ways are doing far more good than holding up "abortion is murder" signs. Those signs are essentially is a churchgoer's way of thinking he is "preaching the gospel" which is not the case, and if anyone wants details please listen to my free-to-read book on audio:

If any of you want to go fight a battle like that in front of an abortion center, by all means, go and do that. I'm not stopping anyone from doing what they are convicted to do, but rather I am trying to give Christians wisdom, discernment, and understanding as much as the Lord allows.

I hope others will do what God has given them resolve to do, and I hope I haven't dissuaded anyone from preaching in front of abortion centers if that is on their hearts to do. However, I think it is infinitely more important to understand Christ's Gospel of repentance for the remission of sins, and that, based on what I have discerned, there are far more churchgoers that are on their way to hell than there are babies being murdered, and quite a number of those holding the picket signs that read "abortion is murder" are standing around without knowing the fullness of the Gospel of Salvation in Christ, which, if a woman understands, she would not kill her baby in the first place.

There are many battles to fight. Pick the one the Lord gives you passion to fight, but make sure you fight with understanding.

What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
-1Co 14:15

Finally, I would encourage Christians to have more patience than Michelle showed. Before accusing someone, it's better to first gather evidence and ask some questions, as opposed to her intemperate approach by gathering no evidence, concluding her imagination about what I said was automatically true because she felt like it, using deceitful means to accuse me by putting question marks at the end her statements, and then lying about it when caught—that is a shameful way to act, and does not honor the Lord Jesus Christ.

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