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Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« on: October 26, 2020, 10:37:50 PM »
Hi, I'm Barb from Florida. I was born into a Catholic family of multiple generations, went to Catholic schools, attended their rituals every Sunday except during my college wild days. Married in a Catholic church building according to their rituals & raised my 4 kids strictly Catholic too, even so much as all 4 of them were altar servers (old terminology was altar boys, but my oldest is a girl!) and I was the altar servers coordinator for our church. (I hate using "church" to describe their pagan temples, but I do so in the common, deceived sense). I also used to teach infant baptism classes, held Catholic marriage meeting groups in our home, went on several Catholic retreats, etc. I was in pretty deep.

In 2012 the company I worked for was sold & I lost my job. In my sudden free time during my 3 year unemployment I began chasing down truth through many conspiracy rabbit holes, including the Mayan calendar end of the world deception. (Hey, I was lost and I had to keep seeking til I accepted or turned around at a dead end!) So my mid-life crisis, my curiosity for seeking truth thru unraveling conspiracies, plus the end of the world made me realize I'd better find out who the real God is & what he wants if we were all going to meet him at the end of the calendar 2012!

My unemployment and my curiosity were worked out in countless hours on the internet. (Thank you, Lord, for providing this medium for me to seek you out!) I found a midwest preacher online who taught me about the true word of God in English (AKJV) and a wonderful word search software to use for study. Not being able to get enough of God's words by reading them on paper (I hate to read) I took the lazy man's route and bought the audio version on CDs read by Alexander Scourby. I played them in the car whenever I took the kids anywhere (mom's taxi) and on one drive by myself to North Carolina, I listened for 14 straight hours. What I learned was so astounding to me (as a Catholic we had zero bible reading, except one or 2 repetitive paragraphs during weekly rituals) that I couldn't get enough. When I finally did get a full-time job and commuted an hour each direction 5 days a week, I'd listen to the entire bible end to end multiple times over the next 8 years. I still keep the disc in the car player and it comes on whenever I turn on the key, wherever he left off. I also listen to a book each night as I go to sleep. 

There was absolutely no way to remain a Catholic after I heard the Truth and saw how diabolical the Catholic cult is. I was saved somewhere in 2012 listening to the Prophets (probably Jeremiah or Isaiah, since they still show the terror of the Lord to me as I hear them today!)

Back in 1986, I had married a man outside my race against my parents' and family's advice/warnings/threats. I thought I knew what I was doing and I was going to prove them all wrong. I wore the pants in the family, not knowing a woman's place according to God's will. I worked and provided for the family. I did major home repair & maintenance myself, I took care of running the household. But I resented my husband's non-participation and in truth, I never really liked kids and certainly didn't want to be saddled with being the 24/7 mother to raise them, feeling so alone in the marriage. As time passed, my husband did less & less. I did more & more, and burned out. I regressed into my college habits of drinking and smoking pot as a way to escape the responsibilities of motherhood & the life I had created for myself. Of course time kept marching on and I was growing more distant from the kids, and they were learning my husband's ways of being unhelpful non-participators. Our family deteriorated and I had failed them as a devoted mother. When I heard God's wrath being poured out in prophesy, I knew I was in trouble eternally!

Jesus saved me & forgave me but I had created a mess. I stayed at the house which was growing in violence and spiritual oppression the more I listened to scripture & the more sermons I played in the dining room computer speakers. The spirits which had set up roost within that house (mostly through their incessant video games & television) were growing more aggressive toward me the more I learned and grew in biblical knowledge and spiritual understanding. I tried finding a KJB church but the few I found and tried all taught some heresy or another, (not to mention the trap of all being 501c3's!) from which God protected me because I was in his word. I had started to  take weekend trips in a homemade camper I built to Bluegrass festivals where I found some temporary relief for my numerous regrets.

After 3 years of temporary escapes, the music and bands were also proving to be too worldly. So I started just going camping in my homemade Cottage Camper by myself. My husband and family didn't mind at all during this time, because if I was gone for the weekend, they wouldn't have to hear preaching coming from the speakers. And the hatred for me was getting "tangible" anyway. Once the kids were all "of age" and it was obvious that none of them wanted to get saved, and it had become common knowledge in the family that my husband chose pornography over me habitually, it became apparent to all that I was not welcome in my own home, indeed, I was driven out. I took my little Cottage Camper to my favorite campground and began to commute to work from there. Over the next 2 years I built myself an 8x 20ft Tiny House on wheels where I currently live with my 6 dogs. I constantly feel the Spirit stirring me to witness to the lost, and indeed, I sometimes feel accounted as sheep for the slaughter because there are so few who will hear. 

My 89 year old mother is still a die-hard Catholic and refuses my (constant) attempts to slide in scripture verses into our daily conversations. My 3 grown siblings and their spouses are all either die-hard Catholics or have turned away from religion all together. (so have I, by strict definition, but that's not the common use of the term). None of them will bend an ear. My whole life is foolishness to them. (Praise God!) :o

So currently I listen to a few preachers, but one thing I know for sure is true: Let God be true but every man a liar. I have not heard one person who preaches/believes all that is in that Word, no, not one. Sooooo many false doctrines! I can't be emphatic enough: Listen to scripture! Listen to scripture! Listen to scripture!   PLEASE LISTEN TO SCRIPTURE !!!! Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God!!!

To spread the truth to those I encounter feels like an orchard groundskeeper in an autumn windstorm without a rake ... picking up one leaf at a time, putting them into a bag with holes.

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2020, 01:07:29 PM »
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I listened for 14 straight hours. What I learned was so astounding to me (as a Catholic we had zero bible reading, except one or 2 repetitive paragraphs during weekly rituals) that I couldn't get enough.
But every Catholic that has written to argue with me swears up and down that they study the Bible. It's interesting that when I meet someone who has come out of Catholicism, they confess that they never studied the Bible. Strange phenomenon.

After reading your entire introduction, I was wondering if you have listened to this teaching:
https://youtu.be/NEI_H3QUb7Q?t=20
If you have, I was curious about your thoughts on that; if you get the time, that is.
The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2020, 02:24:33 PM »
Yes, I listened to that series about 2 months ago when I started listening to many of your content videos on YouTube. It reminded me of the hours of tears and the bitter remorse I felt during those early days when I first heard the true gospel and felt undeserving of his forgiveness. (which Catholics are inoculated against). It was one of the reasons why I listened to more of your channel. There aren't many preachers who get it, who seem to understand biblical repentance and it being a key to truly being saved vs. easy believism or acceptance into one's heart or relationship with Jesus, being good, earning through works, etc. (man's inventions) It is a vital aspect of the gospel message. I've learned a great saying: you can't be saved until you know you're lost.

True godly sorrow is hand in hand with acknowledging one's state in opposition to God's Law, working together to help a person see himself as God does, in need of mercy and salvation by the one true God through the blood of his only begotten son and sanctification through his word. There is no other way. Period. That's probably why it's not preached much ... the devil & man distort the truth of God's word to lead them astray, anything but the truth.

I would be able to offer more thoughts/comments on the video if you'd like, but I'd have to re-listen and take notes. In general, however, nothing stands out in my memory that I disagreed with you therein. Let me know if I've addressed your query, or if you were looking for something more specific to the video.

I look forward to the fellowship here of bible believers.  :)

~~Barb

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2020, 11:12:13 PM »
Hi Barb, and welcome to the forum! It's always wonderful to hear of someone who has been delivered from one of the many false religions of the world, and particularly Catholicism! The are are a few other former Catholics here, as well, and they all struggle with trying to witness to family members who are still enmeshed in that belief system. All praise be to God that you were willing to seek out His truth and come to repentance and salvation! I look forward to hearing more from you and getting to know you better.

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2020, 12:33:25 AM »
Hello Barb,
            I am new to the CLE forum and it was refreshing to read your testimony. I kept saying to myself as I was reading "she gets it!!" I am so happy you was delivered from such a large system of corruption that has decieved so many even those outside the catholic church. I anticipate to hear more from you.


p.s This may be a weird question but what kind of puppies do you have and what are their names?
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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2020, 05:54:48 PM »
Hi Barb, praise the Lord for getting you out of Catholicism! I had a chuckle at this line.

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To spread the truth to those I encounter feels like an orchard groundskeeper in an autumn windstorm without a rake ... picking up one leaf at a time, putting them into a bag with holes.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2020, 09:21:53 PM »
Thank you all for welcoming me. Funny thing -- I was trying to log in tonight and the system kept kicking out my password and giving me the "warning" page (only for members) and the "welcome, guest" page. I thought I had been kicked out before I even get started! LOL. But alas, my computer crashed 2 days ago so I am limping along on a patched pc til I can get my "c" key stuck back in and a new hard drive.

Thanks, Jeanne for informing me of fellow ex-catholics here. Fellowshipping here will be a sip of cool water in this desert of false religion I'm wading thru with my family. I believe deceived catholics (um, that would be all of them) are a vast field but so few are ready to harvest! The indoctrination is LAYERS deep, and like all false religions, they prey on a person's pride in their own works to keep them in bondage. Oooooh it makes me so mad (at the devil!)

HeatherTaylor, I'm glad I'm not the only rookie here! Yes, I mourn over the stiffness of their necks ... they are so incredibly deceived. My mom & dad were both hugely into the Marian movement ... even travelling around the country to different vision locations and being totally fooled by the lying signs and wonders of weeping statues, locutions, false prophets, stained glass in the shape of "the blessed mother" etc. I even talked to my dad about a vision he had one night (or 2 nights?) when he said "a woman" was standing near his bed, which he assumed was "Mary" but that he felt an evil presence when he expected a holy feeling. I told him that "Mary" can't save him, only Jesus could and that he is the only one risen from the dead so I knew it couldn't be the real Mary. That was early in my searching years, but I had already been studying scripture & I had left the catholic cult. I didn't know scripture well enough to quote verses to him, but I had given dad a set of audio CDs of the King James and asked him to listen to it. (He accepted my gift on his birthday in June but he only listened to the bonus introductory bonus dvd that gave the history of the KJB. He refused to listen to the true word of God and gave it back to me in its box at christmas. But when he had this vision, I did tell him of several things that I had found where we've been taught the opposite of what the bible says. (bishops being husband of one wife, use not vain repetitions, call no man father, etc) He died a couple of months/weeks later. I fear that he is in hell. My only glimmer of hope is that I did hear him mumble the night before he died, "Jesus, I'm so sorry, please forgive me" So I can only hope that even though the catholics preach a different Jesus, that in his glorious mercy, the one true Lord would hear & grant this man's dying plea.

My dogs are Papillons, by the way. I used to breed them. I only have 6 left out of nearly 40 I've whelped in 15 years.  ::) All of mine are classic tri-color, except for one sable. They range in age from 13 yrs. to 3 yrs. Names: Taco, Reeses, Sushi, Miso, Azuki & Kiwi. (what can I say ... I like food! and they're so cute you just wanna eat them up ! LOL )
It all started with Snickers & Twix. It's all their fault! Others we've had are: Peanut, Java, Pretzel & Chip, Twinkie, Noodles, Cocoa, Punkin, Puddin, Fudge, Licorice, Pita, Hershey, Oreo, Waffles, Nilla, Pickles, Kibbles, Mousse (chocolate, of course), Big Mac, Nugget, Tater, Chuck-Eye, Saki, Kim-Chi, Sashimi, Mango, Honey, Ham, Yam & Gravy. (and Cinnamon, the cat). I'm sure there's more, but most of them were adopted after 12 weeks old & 40 is an awful lot to remember over 15 years! Thanks for askin' !

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2020, 12:43:21 AM »
Hi Barb

Welcome from me too.  It's good to see another join the forum and by the look of it you're going to fit right in with the rest of us.  I can fully understand the sense of frustration of not being able to get others out there to see the big picture and to embrace the truth that gives eternal life.  My own father died thirteen years ago and all of what I tried to tell him rolled off him like water off a duck's back.  It's a horrible feeling of wondering what more one could have said or could have done that might have made a difference.
And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew from the Lord, as the showers upon the grass, that tarrieth not for man, nor waiteth for the sons of men.  Micah 5:7 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2020, 02:14:20 AM »
Hey Barb,
            I was laughing so hard reading all the food names you had for your puppies. And they are all so cute. Whenever I had puppies, I normally named them food names, too.

even travelling around the country to different vision locations and being totally fooled by the lying signs and wonders of weeping statues, locutions, false prophets, stained glass in the shape of "the blessed mother"

I thought of these scriptures when I read this.

Matthew 16:4
King James Version
4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.


Matthew 23:15
King James Version
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.


Once I was born again I could see the deception all around me. I knew something was wrong even when I was lost but once I was found, it all clicked and now I know why I felt weird during certain events as I grew up, like, Christmas, Easter, Birthdays, all the Holidays just seem like it was all to put on a facade and spend money and an excuse for family to get drunk. And the material at CLE has helped with putting the pieces together.

I can never thank My Lord Jesus Christ enough for what He has done for me and continues to do for me and my family.
I have 2 boys: Jacob 12 (almost a teen in March) and Seth 10. Ever since I was born again in Christ, they boys have changed as well. My youngest is displaying true repentance and it softens my heart even more. My oldest is struggling with lying right now and it is frustrating and we all fall short so I am trying to work with him the way God has worked with me. I am still exercising discernment and I am messing up but I am trying to do the Will of my Father. I need help with my husband. I struggle with giving him proud looks and comments. I am trying to remember that God has been patient with me all these years, I can handle a few minutes of differences with my spouse. I am not sure why I told you all this. I guess I just wanted to share a little about myself with you since you showed those sweet little puppies faces. We do not have any pets. My husband and my youngest son are allergic really bad to pet dander. Well can't wait to get to know more about you.

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2020, 11:45:45 AM »
Oh, HeatherTaylor! You said so many good things....

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I am not sure why I told you all this.

= God knows!  And reading your post made me think of these:

1 Peter 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
while they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
(my emphasis)

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"I struggle with giving him proud looks and comments."

Oh boy, can I relate to that one! I was helped with this scripture, which changed the focus off of him and back onto myself and my accountability to God:
Mark 7:21-23 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
(This is still something I need to keep aware of.)
But, praise God, I can see you are applying
Eph 4:31-32 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2020, 04:03:48 PM »
Thank you Barb for sharing those scriptures with me. It is what I need. I am so glad I found this place of True Believer in Christ. May we continue to build each other up in the Faith and in His Word. Praying God gives us a heart after Him and a heart for his people. May we speak only when God wants us to and say only what the Holy Spirit wants us to. You have a blessed day Barb
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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2020, 06:16:35 PM »
Barb, I got a puppy when I was in high school, but never knew what breed it was. I thought she was a mutt, and she may have been a mixed breed, but I had never seen ears on a dog that looked like that! It wasn't until in the past 10 years or so that I realised she must have been at least part Papillon, if not pure. (Her face and head looked like that, too.) I had never heard of that breed before! She was all black except for a white star on her chest and it's been so long, I can't remember if she had any white on her feet or not. Her name was Gypsy and she lived to be 19.

P.S. Is that an older picture of your dogs? I noticed there's 7 of them and you said you only have 6 now...
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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2020, 07:37:54 PM »
Hi Barb!
While it's hard for me to relate to all of the struggles that you've been through in your life, I am glad that the Lord led you here. We too love dogs and your Papillons sure are cute.
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Over the next 2 years I built myself an 8x 20ft Tiny House on wheels where I currently live with my 6 dogs. I constantly feel the Spirit stirring me to witness to the lost, and indeed, I sometimes feel accounted as sheep for the slaughter because there are so few who will hear.
I admit to having a fascination for tiny houses- may we see a picture of what you built?
There are a couple others here who also travel and witness. I hope that we may be an encouragement to you  and vice versa if you are willing to share your experiences witnessing.
Thanks for joining, I look forward to getting to know you better  :)

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2020, 08:19:20 PM »
Hi Barb  :)

It was wonderful to read through your posts. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ that He opened your eyes to the truth and that you left the Catholic church behind. I can imagine how die-hard Catholic your mom is at 89. My grandma is 95 and has been Catholic her entire life.

I'm glad you were able to witness to your dad before he passed and I too hope he came to repentance the night before he passed.

That is very cool you built your own tiny house to share with your cute dogs  :) I too would love to see a picture, if you would like to share. Also, what part of FL are you living in? We just had a member of the church move to Fort Walton beach.

I look forward to conversing with you and getting to know you better.

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2020, 09:37:51 AM »
Hi Barb,

It was good to read your testimony and see your cute dogs! I have family members and past friends who are Catholic. Praise God that you got out of it.

I hope you find good and edifying fellowship here on the forum, I am still pretty new here too. :)

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2020, 04:42:29 PM »
Welcome, Barb! I'm glad that you have come out from the depths of Catholicism to be renewed in Christ. It sounds like you have done a lot of searching and studying. Do you remember what brought you to the CLE website?

Hi, I'm Barb from Florida. I was born into a Catholic family of multiple generations, went to Catholic schools, attended their rituals every Sunday except during my college wild days. Married in a Catholic church building according to their rituals & raised my 4 kids strictly Catholic too, even so much as all 4 of them were altar servers (old terminology was altar boys, but my oldest is a girl!) and I was the altar servers coordinator for our church. (I hate using "church" to describe their pagan temples, but I do so in the common, deceived sense). I also used to teach infant baptism classes, held Catholic marriage meeting groups in our home, went on several Catholic retreats, etc. I was in pretty deep.

Your testimony is proof of God's great power and mercy! It gives me renewed hope that even those who are lost, entrenched in false doctrine, can still come to repentance and faith in Christ.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Matthew 19:23-26


And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans 12:2

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2020, 11:36:45 PM »
Great, Jeanne about your mix breed dog! Wow, 19, eh? That's longer than I've ever heard for a dog. You must've done something right! Do you have an old photo? Many people love the big ears on the Papillons. I must say, they do tickle my fancy, but especially when they are puppies -- the disproportion is hysterical, I think! Yours was probably a mix because the Papillon "standard" for the breed requires they are white with patches of color rather than color with patches of white. But either way, once you get that mix of cuteness in there, it's hard to shake! LOL.
Good catch on the Papillon count in the photo! Yes, that is my current clan of 6 plus the one on the far right front corner is Mango who is Kiwi's sister, whom I gave to my husband after his previous Papillon died. But she lived with me til long after she was 12 weeks because he hadn't settled into his apartment yet. I think Kiwi & Magno were 4-5 months old in that photo.

Thanks for the welcome, Lorraine. And for complimenting my fur babies. And yes, I love to share about my tiny house on wheels (THOW) and about my little Papillons and about the bible. So, ya, now that I've found this forum, I'm excited to grow with the brethren! Woot Woot!

I'm not certain which aspects of the forum are visible to the public and which are more private, but I will message you with a link to see some photos of my THOW.  THANKS for asking! I am pleased with what has manifested from the inspiration God gave me and the work he let me do to assemble it! I don't know how private my THOW is anyway, being that I am a Tiny House Advocate, I'm the Tiny House Manager at our park, I have published videos on my YouTube channel showing some of its construction and I am a regular speaker at the Tiny House Festivals in my state. So, I'm already kinda "out there" (in oh so many ways, LOL)

Hi Shanon, thanks for the encouragement and welcome. I'll send you a link to my THOW pics too.

Hi Elissa! Nice to meet you too! (this is fun! such a better option than facebook! )

Hi Laura! Yes, I am also glad for God's patience and calling those that are lost. And thank God he doesn't give up on us the first time we ignore his pleadings! I, too, am encouraged that his longsuffering is accounted to us for salvation! Especially as it pertains to Catholics. I am so glad there are so many catholics who are lukewarm -- greater potential that they're open to the gospel! It's that die-hard group that really scares me but I know that God wills that all men be saved:

1 Tim 2:3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.


but that only he can save them, call them & grant repentence:

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

So I just keep plugging away, quoting scripture to my lost family, and praying God will grant them repentance.

What brought me to the CLE website was that I'd been listening to Chris' YouTube channel for a few months and in the most recent vid about Catholicism he had some unresolved query about the mysteries of the rosary and how they didn't match up to the number of beads. So I went to post in the comment section to explain it, and of course, the comment section is turned off so I came here to post the info under the same video here. Then I found the forum & thought how wonderful it would be to actually fellowship with real bible believers. So I bit the bullet and registered. I do not like putting personal info on the internet, especially knowing the increase in persecution we christians can expect, but I figure "big brother" has more on each of us and it is inevitable, I might as well go out preaching Christ!



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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2020, 12:36:38 PM »
Since it has been brought up twice, I will address it. I did not say anything about it when I did the teaching, but I already knew in my mind someone was going to email me or contact me in some other way, wanting to explain the intimate details about the Catholic Mysteries, and also knew that it was going to be pointless. Although I am glad this spurred you to come to the forum to talk with us, and I am glad you shared your testimony with us, I want to make sure it is understood to everyone that I simply do not care about the Catholic Mysteries (nor do I care about the intimate details of the sinful things Catholic tradition promotes), and I would argue, not only does it not matter for the purpose of the teaching, but the information is not helpful or edifying to anyone.

What I quoted from the Catholic organization was poorly worded in their own document, in that the average person would not understand what they were saying. That is the point I was making. Essentially, you would have to be raised within their system in order to understand what they were talking about, and that itself is a much better philosophical point than trying to understand the details of their traditions.

For example, I quoted from witches in the teaching, and there are number of things they said in their articles that did not make any sense, and though I am sure they would be happy to explain the intimate details about their pagan practices, I simply do not care because that information is not edifying to the church in any context that I am speaking about. Likewise, I simply do not care about the intimate details of vain prayers from the Catholic Church since they violate the doctrines of Jesus Christ, or in other words, I would rather understand the intimate details of Scripture than to waste my time understanding the intimate details of Catholic pagan practices.

For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
-Rom 16:19


That is why I did not respond to anything you wrote about it earlier, and I was not going to comment at all and just leave it alone, but since it has now been brought up twice on two different threads, I thought I needed to briefly address it, and so now I hope everyone understands why I did not choose to look up intimate details about the Catholic mysteries before I did the teaching (or while I was writing the book), and I more or less just condemned the stupidity of the entire practice; for the sake of the church and the Lord Jesus Christ, I will say: it's still ridiculous.

The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
-Psa 34:18

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2020, 09:40:24 PM »
Here is my little Gypsy. Sorry, but these pictures were taken back before digital cameras existed, so I had to take photos of the pictures in an album. That is my mum holding her in the first pic, back when she was younger than I am now!  LOL

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Re: Saved out of the Catholic Cult !
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2020, 08:17:06 AM »
Hi Jeanne,

Gypsy is adorable! Thank you so much for sharing her! Yes, in my estimation, she definitely has Papillon in her! She has those famous ears, complete with fringe! (My favorite part!) She is larger than the purebred standard, which is commonly the first difference, but I saw from the overhead photo that her body coat follows the lay pattern of the Papillon group.

One lingering trait in the breed is their disposition. I can see from the photos she had a great attention span and full of love and playfulness! Yay! I'm glad she brightened your life for a season!

Thanks for sharing!  ;)