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« on: November 18, 2023, 08:38:03 AM »
Probably the best thing for it Travis, and this is something I told my wife after she got saved, was that it doesn't matter what I say, or what a pastor says or any other person claiming to be a teacher, you have to read the bible for yourself (even if it's just going through the audio book while you're driving to and from work,) if what anyone says contradicts the bible, then it's the bible that wins out. All of the cults out there reveal themselves to have beliefs contradictory to the bible in one way or another, and if what Rowan said is correct and they believe in "racial purity" (which makes no sense at all, because what we call races is merely the result of the human body adapting to it's environment over long periods of time, if God didn't want people of different skin colours and backgrounds to be able to breed with one another, he would have made it impossible by natural means.) Then they sound no different in some of the beliefs preached in Mormonism and 7th day Adventism.
While it's not openly taught to most mormons, their doctrine classes humans with white skin as the human form of angels who fought valiantly in the war in heaven before Lucifer was cast out, and babies born with black skin as incarnations of the angels who refused to pick a side until the war was over. (For bonus points, look up mormon blood atonement, where there are 5 sins that the blood of Christ can never atone for, murder, adultery, homosexuality, apostacy from the temple and marrying a black person, so if I joined, by old mormon law, they'd have to kill me.)
I'm pretty sure Ellen G White tried explaining other skin colours as an "amalgamation" of breeding between people and animals, which on a genetic level doesn't make any sense.
Going back to your first question though, yes, Jesus did say he came to fulfil the law, not to destroy it. The law was fulfilled when his work was finished on the cross. If this group is insisting that the old law must be followed, then that would mean they would have to keep the letter of the law regarding the sabbath (which in modern day and world is virtually impossible, even more so if they insist you attend a church building every sabbath, then it really is impossible.) They would have to be performing blood sacrifices with a cow, goat, lamb or dove at an alter as Israel was commanded to in the desert, and would have to wash their clothes and wash their hands, and basically be quarantined until nightfall if they happened to touch a dead body (human or an animal carcass that was found somewhere.), engage in the natural obligations as man and wife, or even touch a living "unclean" animal.
Galatians 2:4 describes a similar situation:
"And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:"
Actually I think later on in Chapter 4 it kind of puts the whole thing into perspective as what happens when we become Christians.
4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
in Romans it also says how we are now in the dispensation of Grace
6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Yes, there are still rules to follow, but when we are born again, we want to remove sin from our lives and if we have something in our lives that is sin that we do not know about, God is graceful to show us step by step why we should reject it and forsake it. I had it happen to me when I was involved in martial arts, the more time went on it was like things were getting in the way of me going to training sessions, I had a compulsion to destroy my training uniforms and grading papers but I couldn't explain why...it took another four or five years before I finally came across someone who put it into perspective and broke down why martial arts are so spiritually dangerous, and even now, I get times where I think it'd be good or healthy to go back to something like that, but then I remember how many styles we have today are descended from esotericism in one way or another, it's easier just to avoid doing it entirely.
In sort I'd say be very wary of them, if someone wants to try following the letter of Mosaic law then I won't get in their way, but that is a HEAVY burden to bare. I have seen a lot of people who have come out of the occult or other forms of very deep darkness only to be pulled asside into other cults such as the Hebrew Roots movement or 7th Day Adventism, which are both very legalistic cults where they require you to follow the letter of the law all the time or you risk losing your "salvation", which I think is exceptionally cruel and also undermines the power and mercy of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
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