John 10:27
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:”
We hear the shepherd but they don't. These people are here for us so we know who is of God and who isn't. Our discernment gets exercised by learning who is false converts and who is born again. Those false converts stand on a works based doctrine bevause they consider repentance foolishness. They want work to get them to heaven so they don't have to humble themselves.
Chris also just uploaded the most recent teaching that can also expound on answering your question
https://ia801504.us.archive.org/27/items/bereansonline0363/bereansonline0363.mp3