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BarlowGirl, a big CCM band: my testimony as an ex-fan
« on: January 27, 2017, 06:53:59 PM »
Hello Creation Liberty! I've been visiting your site for quite a while to learn about subjects like marriage, 501(c)(3) and "Christian" rock. I wanted to share my testimony of how I used to embrace an artist in the genre, but now repented. I was introduced to it back in 2005 when my former youth pastor had a game (Mingle or Musical Chairs, something like that) for a prize. I had no idea what the prize was because everyone was so noisy, but it was for Another Journal Entry by BarlowGirl.

Only after copying two songs, I passed the CD to someone else. I later bought a "Fan Pack" edition of that CD and collected more over the years, most on sale and a few given to me as gifts, so that my collection reached close to 100 unique titles. When I first played Another Journal Entry (AJE), I felt strange because I didn't like rock, but I kept listening because my pastor approved and because of the message.

BarlowGirl (BG) was big on purity, including purity rings. I'm aware that CLE since exposed rings, but back then, I thought it was a noble and holy choice because I barely knew anything about marriage, hence my recent post in the "Government & Law" forum. The band's big emphasis was "don't have sex" and to dress more modestly, so it seemed. I don't recall any lessons about what marriage is and how Christ sees marriage. I didn't know that rock music and BG's influences (like The Beatles) was a problem. I thought that this was church, the new way to worship.

When the band announced its disbanding in October 2012, my heart sank. I wanted to get a fan mail read and replied in hopes that it would help me battle sexual sin. It sounds strange, but I thought back then that the sisters were still pure and some fans still believe today that they'll marry one day. I sent my mail in May 2013 and waited a month's time, tweeting and e-mailing in the meantime. They didn't reply, but merchandised in an online store. I eventually lashed out, which led to the road manager sending a generic postcard, but not before accusing me of bothering them.

Unable to cope with the truth, Alyssa and Lauren Barlow blocked me on Twitter, and so did the road manager. The latter and Lauren blocked me first simultaneously, after which Alyssa told me to be "positive and uplifting." That's part of why in 2014, I translated Lauren's book "Inspired by Tozer" to Spanish and French. Back then, I still believed in the band, despite its religious deception and problems like Alyssa and Lauren praising Beyoncé and Bruno "Mars". Alyssa blocked me after I criticized  her praise of the film Maleficent. (I saw the film in Digital IMAX and it horrified me.)

Come January 2015, I chose to e-mail my book translations to one of BG's friends. In sum, that friend (theirs, not mine) alternated between accusing me of nuisance and complimenting my work, while BG dismissed it completely. I made that friend aware that BG praised the works of bad secular artists. In response, she gave me excuses instead of the truth that I wanted to know. In January 2016, I've exposed BarlowGirl with a video, which led to that friend blocking me one day after upload. I've sent her a lot of biblical exhortation, but I'm sad because she seems to reject it.

I hope that my testimony gives you more insight as to why I embraced "Christian" rock in the first place and why I now dismiss it. I wish that someone would have made a BarlowGirl exposé earlier so that many fans, staff (like the road manager or friend) and even the band itself could know the difference between profane and holy music. Music has a long-lasting impact and it's hard to detach oneself from it. Also hard is being detached, after attending for about 15 years, from the church that gave me BG AJE. The pastor kept defending BG even after I shared BG's issues. I've rebuked other artists they love, like Chris Tomlin and Hillsong Y&F. BG has a closely-knit fan community, even in Brazil with fans not fluent in English. The Spanish book could've easily been translated to Portuguese (mutually intelligible), but no. I made the fans aware of this and BG's other leaven, but I got shunned. All of these people are being robbed of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. I'm anguished. I now enjoy Old Christian Radio and even some good clean secular music, while my CCM collection is now drastically reduced. I pray that people can avoid making the same mistakes that I made and seek Jesus truthfully and wholeheartedly. :-)

As a bonus, here is Vincent Barlow (BG's dad) boasting about the band. Notice that his boasts are exaggerated ("Multi-Platinum-Selling" generally means two million CDs or more; the 800K is song sales) and deny Jesus Christ. Here's his pitch to sell "emotional quotient" training and seminars.

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Re: BarlowGirl, a big CCM band: my testimony as an ex-fan
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2017, 08:15:56 PM »
Like any other music group, CCM artists are in the game for only one reason: MONEY! They wouldn't dare tell the truth because that would turn people off and their sales would drop drastically. (You'll notice that CLE has a very small following and that numerous people have joined and left this forum because they couldn't handle the truth.)

Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. That piece you shared from BG's father sounds like a job resume; like maybe he's hoping to get hired by some other band since BG split up.

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Re: BarlowGirl, a big CCM band: my testimony as an ex-fan
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2017, 11:36:20 PM »
Thanks for writing that Alex, I found it to be an interesting read. 
Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

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Re: BarlowGirl, a big CCM band: my testimony as an ex-fan
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 03:43:51 PM »
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I now enjoy Old Christian Radio and even some good clean secular music

Hi Alex,

I don't think it's wise to put the term "good clean" in front of secular to make it look acceptable. Secular in definition is unrighteousness and wickedness in the sight of God. Remember that, nothing about the music industry is 100% clean because uncleanness should be in them in order to be publish.

Secular

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Secular

1. Pertaining to the present world, or to things not spiritual or holy; relating to things not immediately or primarily respecting the soul, but the body; worldly. The secular concerns of life respect making provision for the support of life, the preservation of health, the temporal prosperity of men, of states, etc. Secular power is that which superintends and governs the temporal affairs of men, the civil or political power; and is contradistinguished from spiritual or ecclsiastical power.


Ephesians 5:11 - And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

Colossians 3:2 - Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.


1 Corinthians 10:31King James Version (KJV)
31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

did you saw anything Glorious to the lord Jesus Christ in that so called "clean secular music"  if not ,then why do you listen to them?

I know it's not going to be easy to quit something that you persuade as good. I myself have struggled a lot quitting this kind of junk and still struggling with many addictions (such as pornography) that has horribly corrupt my thoughts.

The Lord Jesus Christ was gracious towards me since in my mother's womb till this days , and it grieves me every time I failed to keep his commandments.

I would urge all of us Born again Christians not to be as sorrowful unto the Lord as the heathen.


Romans 8King James Version (KJV)

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.


It's up to you to choose between the lust of the flesh and walking in the Spirit.

Hope that was helpful to you

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Re: BarlowGirl, a big CCM band: my testimony as an ex-fan
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2017, 10:21:05 PM »
I'll begin by answering previous messages, then share some news.

MONEY! They wouldn't dare tell the truth […] sales would drop drastically. (You'll notice that […] they couldn't handle the truth.)

Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. That piece you shared from BG's father sounds like a job resume; like maybe he's hoping to get hired by some other band since BG split up.

That's what it sounds like. The purity campaign looks more like a marketing gimmick than a genuine, heartfelt commitment to save sex for marriage. I don't quite understand why it's been over a year since I publicly rebuked BG, but the sisters are still holding on to their lukewarm guns. It's a sad story and I'm more upset to see this in CCM than to see it in secular music. I appreciate sharing my experience. It helps me heal. I agree with you that Vincent Barlow looks like he's job hunting. After all, he is a businessman. What he did with BG, though, is degrading to his daughters and to women in general.

Thanks for writing that Alex, I found it to be an interesting read.
You're welcome. :-) I think that there are many other CCM stories like that, but people hide them away. I hope that more folks have the courage to share.


Hi Alex,

I don't think it's wise to put the term "good clean" in front of secular to make it look acceptable. […]
I would urge all of us Born again Christians not to be as sorrowful unto the Lord as the heathen. […] choose between the lust of the flesh and walking in the Spirit.

Hope that was helpful to you

Maybe what I said wasn't very clear. Do you object to instrumental music or to other music that do not carry anti-Christian themes? I understand that in French, "profane" refers to any non-Christian content. That's why I try to be very careful with non-Christian entertainment.



Here is the latest from Lauren Barlow. Please click to enlarge in a new tab.


Although I am not surprised at Lauren's disposition, I am not happy either. She and her two older sisters spent their CCM career putting a front that if a man obeyed the Lord and stayed pure, he would get to marry one of these Barlows. Today, I am really repulsed at the idea of marrying a woman who built her career off of selling sex (in this case, under the guise of purity) and is known to repeatedly lie when a young man tries to correct her. I wonder how many people gave up on purity or marriage because of stories like BarlowGirl. I know that my youth group had a lot of compromise and didn't teach the truth about marriage. I hope that the false love from those like BarlowGirl gets put away soon. Instead, I want to see people show true lovingkindness.

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Re: BarlowGirl, a big CCM band: my testimony as an ex-fan
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2017, 09:27:36 AM »
Alex, you wrote me an email, but you did not type in a valid email address. I cannot reply without one.
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Re: BarlowGirl, a big CCM band: my testimony as an ex-fan
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2017, 09:51:06 AM »
That has been sad to hear.

A couple of observations.

The Mormons also have something similar-showing how family oriented they are that attracts many people.

I cannot resource this but did hear this where they tried getting some singers to get more heart felt songs into their music-to pull the heart strings-sometimes with a better praise hook because it sells better-Steve Camp is who I think I heard that from who is a Pastor now.

One of my favorites-Keith Green-who was on his way to full time preaching ministry anyways-I think he would have abandoned the whole CCM scene because of the money grubbers. I came from the Christian Rock scene from an earlier time-Stryper (who some of us could tell were pretty worldly touring with Satanic bands and chucking bibles at people).

Ones I like now (and by no stretch do I consider them CCM or Christian Rock) is Shane and Shane which I will share my favorite (but not only favorite-so many) but I consider my life song called, "Though You Slay Me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyUPz6_TciY
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