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General Discussion / Strange Behavior of Abortion "Doctor"

« on: April 02, 2021, 09:29:51 AM »

This abortion doctor was addressed by a street preacher coming out of his clinic. You can see/hear the demonic way he acts:
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/472/424/original/e35887657906422b.mp4

This is why I addressed the real source of the problem in my teaching on this subject:
Abortion: Paganism, Satanism, Sacrifices & Witchcraft

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Introduce Yourself

« on: April 01, 2021, 10:49:05 AM »

You will find the answers to most of the other questions once you get to know me better.
You were asked for your testimony of Jesus Christ. That does not require "getting to know you better." I see two major problems right now:

1. You found this site years ago when looking up things on tithing (according to your original post), and yet, based on what I'm reading from you, it sounds like you haven't looked at (or listened to) much of anything I've produced, so your two posts together are looking very odd. The people who joined this forum are in agreement together on most of their beliefs and philosophy (i.e. way of thinking), so if you uphold something else other than that, I am still curious why you are even here.

2. It's almost as if you're trying to talk in code, as if we are collectively waiting in suspense as you reveal poetic hints about "who you are." I am not suspenseful, I assure you; I am more suspicious and cautious right now because I have seen this pattern many times before. When a woman such as yourself claims to be a Christian and then puts up a generic sentence to replace an actual testimony of Christ, and then speaks in somewhat coded messages when requested for basic information about her, that is showing all the signs of a deceptive woman who is hiding her intentions. I see a woman who is fearful to testify of Jesus Christ because she's worried that she doesn't understand the Scripture and will be told the truth by those who do understand it, but someone who did not fear the truth would just come out and say it because she wants to fellowship together with everyone.

If I'm wrong, then prove me wrong. But if you don't want to provide that, then just say so and we can change your profile from "Christian" to "Other" so your profile will accurately reflect your beliefs, and no one will get fooled. I just want us to be honest with each other and not stand on pretense; that's all.

(Side note: Vince, you are not in a position to be questioning anyone else on that matter, when you have not yet figured out where you stand yet.)

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General Discussion / Re: Pretending to Protect

« on: April 01, 2021, 12:00:34 AM »

It's okay. Your account should be updated to the private section of the forum.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Introduce Yourself

« on: March 31, 2021, 11:59:56 AM »

I don't see anything beneficial in approaching another person in a disrespectful manner especially when they join this forum with no intended disrespect. Saved or not Saved. Remember where you came from and how you might feel when approached in such a way.

I agree with Vince that I noticed that Tim's post seemed to be a bit strict or rigid, but I had the same questions Tim had. (i.e. Tim was right.) That goes for Ellie as well, I had the same questions she had. I thought the phrase "Living day to day and hope to hope. This is my everyday story." was a completely pointless comment. I could walk into a store and read that on inside of a Hallmark card. So if she came here for fellowship, then it was very odd that she would make such generic remarks, which leaves us to wonder if she came here for fellowship at all, which makes us question why she is here (and even why it took her so many years to do it).

I would guarantee that if we were all in a room, and she came in as a guest, she would not talk the way she just wrote. That tells me that she's standing on pretense in some manner (i.e. a call to impress), and when people do that, there is deception somewhere. Vince, you did NOT stand on pretense when you came here to talk with us in your introduction, and therefore, we did not respond to you in the same manner, but for someone who is still lacking discernment (as you admitted on your own that you are), perhaps it would be better for you to ask WHY someone responded to her as they did, rather than demand they satisfy your personal preferences.

Tim is gentle, even when he is irritated, and I would remind you that Jesus Christ was gentle, but He was also very frank in His speech, as He was when He spoke to a whole crowd of people who believed on Him:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
-John 8:44-47

He flat-out told those people, who were professing "believers," that they were of the devil. You think they liked that? They picked up stones to kill Him after He said it. I could provide many other such examples if needed, and in comparison, I think Tim was far more reserved in his speech. We will tell the truth here, whether you like it or not, because it is for the sake of the saving of souls, which is far more important than satisfying your personal feelings.

She said: Since I was five I remember I found peace with the Lord.
That is NOT the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and there is no place in the Bible where someone was saved or became a child of God by "finding peace with the Lord."

But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon [i.e. quickly] with joy receiveth it; Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
-Mat 13:20-21

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Wild Emails @ CLE / I Sent a Letter to Donald Trump

« on: March 30, 2021, 09:28:48 AM »

Some of you might be aware that Donald Trump officially opened 45Office.com, which is his official website, and opened up communications for comments, and requests to speak at various events. (i.e. He's coming back into the picture now.) I was waiting for this because I have wanted to send him a letter for some time now, and this seems like it was a perfect opportunity. Here is the letter I sent:
TO DONALD TRUMP, MAR 30, 2021, 9:20 AM
Dear President Trump,

I want to begin by saying, thank you for your service to our nation. I will first say that, after six months of research on you, I know now what's going on, and I will simply say that I now know who is in charge, and it's not Joe Biden. I understand what you're doing now, and why you cannot yet say anything about it. We will continue to be patient and watchful, and we appreciate all that you are doing.

If you would be so kind as to hear me out, I would like to relate to you why I did not pay attention to anything you were doing for the first four years in your presidency, why I now support you 100% in what you are doing, and why would not vote for you even though I support you. I know that sounds strange, but I would be very grateful if you would hear me out, knowing that you are a very busy man, and that every second you give me is an act of charity and kindness.

I am a (born again) Christian author and evangelist, and my wife runs our small farm in rural Indiana. (Shelby County) I was born and raised here, living on land that has been in our family for four generations, and we are simple people that work to make ends meet.

For almost two decades now, I have known about the corrupt cabal that is running things in the shadows, and I have stayed away from the political arena and mainstream media because I already knew about their manipulations long ago. (My eyes were opened to these things deceptions after the false flag attacks of 9/11, which I am sure you know the details about.) I had enough of the mainstream media after I saw the way they treated Ron Paul, and I have turned off the TV to focus on the works of ministry ever since.

When you were first inaugurated, I decided to watch your speech. I did not know anything about you, and when I heard you open by thanking Barack Obama for his service to our nation, I was so infuriated with that statement, I shut off the video, and I did not look into anything you were doing for the next four years. Please understand, I was so sick and tired of hearing the garbage come out of the mouth of U.S. presidents in my lifetime (I am almost 40 years old), I thought you were going to be the same old thing, but now I understand that "optics are important," so today, I know why you said what you said back then.

What got me started to investigate you was the first debate you had with Joe Biden last fall (or, at least, the person playing Joe Biden; I am unsure about that yet). Even though everyone else was very critical of your first debate, I rather enjoyed it. I knew that man was a total scumbag, and for the first time in my life, it felt good to hear someone at the top stand up to these wicked men, stand up to the corrupt mainstream media, and call them out. This got me a bit curious, so I started investigating you, slowly at first, and then more rapidly as time went on; every time I found something on you, I got more excited because I kept seeing someone who was doing what was right instead of what was convenient.

I was shocked to find out last fall that you had made peace in the Middle East (because I never heard anything about that prior to that point), and though I'm sure it was more difficult for you than I yet understand, it seemed like you did it almost effortlessly, doing what the corrupt politicians all claimed was "impossible." Of course, now that I know what information you brought with you on your week-long journey in 2017 from SA to the Vatican, and what you acquired during your stays in those various nations, I now understand what's going on. (Again, I know who is in charge, and it's not Biden.) This helped me realize that you were not a typical corrupt politician, and as I began to investigate more and more, by the end of Jan 2021, it was the first time in my life I felt patriotic.

I have always been pleased to have been blessed by God and born into a nation where I can speak and preach the Word of God freely, but I have been so disgusted with the corruption in all levels of our government, it has made me bitter over the decades of my life. Thanks to the Lord Jesus Christ for opening my eyes, and for giving you your position and gifts to do your job, I have been blessed with understanding about what you are doing, and what we, The People, now need to do.

Today, I support you and what you're doing. However, as I said earlier, I would still not vote for you, and with your kind patience to hear me out, I want to explain why. There is only one thing that would prevent me from voting for you, and did prevent me from doing so in the 2020 election. (i.e. I simply did not vote.)

I documented an interview you did in 2016 when running for president. Here is what was said:
INTERVIEWER: "You used the word 'Christian', have you ever asked God for forgiveness?"
TRUMP: "That's a tough question. I don't think in terms of--I'm a religious person... [you then went on for 60 seconds to talk about denominations and did not answer the question]"
INTERVIEWER: "But have you ever asked God for forgiveness?"
TRUMP: "I'm not sure I have. I just go on and try and do a better job from there. I don't think so. If I do something wrong, I think I just try and make it right... I don't bring God into that picture."

This was very concerning to me because I serve the Lord Jesus Christ, and study His Word frequently, and I can tell you for certain that, although you may believe in Jesus Christ, you are not of Jesus Christ. If you had simply told everyone that you hold Christian principles, but you are not a Christian, I would have voted for you without question in 2020, but when you said you were a Christian, and you made the above quoted statement, I knew you believed in a lie.

We have never met, but you have done so much for me in opening my eyes to many things, in business and politics, and now, I hope, with your continued kindness and patience with me, I would like to share the truth of the Gospel with you, and I can assure, just as much as there is a lot of corruption in the political arena, there is a lot of corruption in church buildings too. You spend your time fighting against the Deep State in business and government, while I spend my time fighting the spiritual battles of false religion in church buildings, and I want you to understand that Norman V. Peale has deceived you because what he taught directly contradicts what Jesus Christ taught.

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
-1 John 1:8-10

For a man to say he has never gone to God for forgiveness means that man has never come to repentance. Jesus said:

"And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."
-Mark 1:15

Repentance, according to Biblical definition, means "grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing." Just as a child comes to his father in the humble tears of sorrow when he has done wrong, so we must come to Jesus Christ in the same manner.

This is what Jesus meant when he said:
"And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven."
-Matthew 18:3-4

And the Lord God has declared that He will not give His pardoning grace to the proud of heart. Pride blinds people. That's why I say that I am "pleased to be an American," and NOT "proud" to be an American. Pride is what got this country into trouble in the first place, and pride is the reason many will end up in hell.

"But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble."
-James 4:6
"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
-Proverbs 16:18

There are many people who have probably taught you belief on Jesus Christ without repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing), or they may have told you that you need to "turn from your sin" to be saved, which is a works doctrine that is not of Christ.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"
-Ephesians 2:8

Just as grace is a gift, repentance is also a gift from God:
"And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;"
-2 Timothy 2:24-25

Again, repentance in general is sorrowfulness, but specifically in terms of mankind, it is to have godly sorrow of one's own wrongdoing:
"For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death."
-2 Corinthians 7:10

Perhaps you have been taught that there are millions upon millions upon millions of Christians all over the world, but that is not what Jesus Christ said. He taught that there are MANY who would end up in hell, while FEW would find the way to eternal life:
"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
-Matthew 7:13-14

The reason few find the way to eternal life is because, like yourself, they are prideful, and have not been humbled to repentance. What I just quoted to you is from the Sermon on the Mount, and in that same sermon, Jesus went on to point out that MANY (i.e. millions upon millions of) people would call Him "Lord," claiming that they served Him, but He never knew them, and He will turn them away unto everlasting hellfire because of their sin:
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
-Matthew 7:21-23

Mr. Trump, with all due respect to your good works and service of our nation, I cannot say with any confidence that you are of Christ. You are not a Christian, and because I serve the Lord Jesus Christ first and foremost, I could not cast my vote for you because my vote is my stamp of approval, and though I personally like you, the truth has to come first, which is a concept I'm sure you understand very well.

I write books and publish them, but I make them available free-to-read online for anyone. I have always been poor, and so I made them free-to-read because I wanted to make sure the poor and needy could read and listen to all my teachings free of charge. I wanted to send you a copy of a short book I wrote, but I know you are a very busy man and likely are getting more mail than you can handle. (In fact, I must pray that this letter will find its way to you somehow.) So I will leave you the link to my book, which is called Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell, and I wrote that because, just like you want Americans to wake up, I want churchgoers to wake up.

Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell
http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/whymillions.php

It's a short read, and I hope you will look into it because I would hate for your life to end one day and you put your eternal soul on the line based on your own works. If you trust in yourself and your own works, you will never enter the Kingdom of God. I would love to see you there one day so we could talk more, but without repentance and faith, there is no salvation, and Jesus made this very clear:

"And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
-Luke 24:44-47

The Son of God came to this earth to suffer and die, and rose again from the dead, so that we who are the disciples of Christ would go forward to preach His doctrine, which is repentance (i.e. grief and godly sorrow of wrongdoing) and remission (i.e. forgiveness) of sins.

My wife and I want to thank you for all of your hard work. You and I may never meet in this life, but I want you to know that you have done a great service for us, as you have for many others. I want to give you the honor that you are due for that great work, and I will continue to support you and help to get the information out to others. I keep laughing as I discover more hidden things you have done, contracts that you made that Biden is tripping over, and other things that are waking up the American people. I understand that things are about to get rough over the next few months, but we are faithful to the Lord Jesus Christ, and we are confident that you are true hidden leader of this nation, even right now, and are working behind the scenes to Save America.

We pray for you daily, that the Lord Jesus Christ bless and protect you, your family, our military, the Q group, the lawyers, our governing representatives who are doing what is right to fight against evil, and the children who are suffering from the vile perverts and satanic cannibals who traffic them. And we are also praying that the corrupt and evil men and women in our governing institutions would hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ and come to repentance as well; for Jesus Christ can save anyone.

"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."
-Matthew 19:23-26

With all honor to one of the greatest presidents this nation has ever known,

-Christopher J.E. Johnson
Creation Liberty Evangelism
creationliberty.com
(and my wife) Lorraine M. Johnson
Good Seed Garden
goodseedgarden.com
END OF LETTER

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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Corruptions of Christianity: Catholicism p25

« on: March 29, 2021, 03:35:21 PM »

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General Discussion / Re: Pretending to Protect

« on: March 29, 2021, 11:02:09 AM »

Could you please explain further, Chris?

I'm just testing his reasoning with a very short response. Did you read the basis for his arguments?

"I somewhat liken this"
"I do not consider"
"I do think"
"I am sure"

Just because someone quotes a verse of Scripture does not mean we're talking about the Bible, and there was no place in his comments where he wanted to discuss Scripture. In fact, it seemed like a bit of a stretch what he even connected the verse to (which I will discuss in a moment), and indeed, he said, "I somewhat liken this," which doesn't mean it has anything to do with what he's talking about. In other words, he was somewhat forcing this post out, which is unlike his other past posts, and I'll get to that in a moment.

What David did was simply let them fool themselves. If they were to judge righteous judgment instead of judging according to the appearance because of the sinfulness of their hearts, they would have found him easily. Withholding information is not necessarily lying and deceit; it can be, but not in this instance.

Furthermore, I know what David (the author of the post) is doing, and I personally think it's shameful. I don't want to be too hard on him because he has made some good posts in the past, but I don't believe he has much interest in fellowship with us. He joined back in October (over half a year ago) and had a little bit of conversation with some folks in his introduction post, and since then, he's typically made one short post about once a month to maintain his account so it doesn't get deleted. Suddenly, when I moved the Insurrection thread, now we get this strange post from him the next day. Coincidence? No, because he said it himself:
I am also trying to get a few more posts in hopes to gain access to the private section of the forum and I did not want to add any remarks to other threads just for the sake of adding remarks
If David's going to be honest, that was his real intention with this post. He even attempted to make it seem like it was a secondary reasoning; no, it was his foundational intention. This post has nothing to do with discussing the Scripture with us, and that's why I did not have much interest in answering with a lengthy post.

So his first thought was to add some remarks, just to get above the threshold so he can read that thread, but then he thought to himself, "Well, that might seem really superficial and would not look good," so instead of searching his heart and thinking about these facts, he tried to come up with an original post so it looked better on the outside, hoping that we would judge this according to the appearance like the wicked men listed in the verse he quoted. That's why (as you may have noticed) his thoughts seem so forced, especially in comparison to his past posts, and frankly, it irritates me. I don't like having to say that with people such as David, because I think God has given him a good understanding, but I have to be blunt here because I don't want others doing this same thing. The only reason I'm responding this thoroughly is because Jeanne asked for it, but otherwise, I would not have responded with this much detail because I know what's going on, and I did not want to contribute to it. I think it's shameful, and I also think it reveals the true heart of some of those on this forum; it demonstrates who is here to have fellowship with Christians and discussing matters with one another, and who is just hanging around in the background so they can get a news feed.

Just a reminder: That is not what this forum was created for. I don't mind if people want to read our public posts, which is why I kept the public section open to the public and did not just privatize the whole thing, but those who want to communicate with us on here make themselves known by their actions, not by having 20 posts, and we can easily discern the difference between the two.

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General Discussion / Re: Pretending to Protect

« on: March 28, 2021, 11:57:49 PM »

Let's first ask a question: When governments execute a criminal, are they guilty of murder?

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General Discussion / Re: MOVED: Insurrection Act (UPDATES DAILY AS THEY COME)

« on: March 28, 2021, 02:24:28 PM »

This thread was moved to a private section of the forum. Our church has already experienced far too many churchgoers who have had too many distractions with this topic, meaning that they are focusing on this more than on the Lord Jesus Christ and His doctrine. Only members with access to the private section of the forum will be able to read this thread from now on to prevent people who have been leavened by "conspiracy ministries" from being distracted from the Gospel of Christ.

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General Discussion / MOVED: Insurrection Act (UPDATES DAILY AS THEY COME)

« on: March 28, 2021, 01:57:50 PM »

This topic has been moved to Christian General Discussion.

http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=1251.0

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Introduce Yourself / Re: My Journey to Jesus

« on: March 26, 2021, 10:26:54 AM »

I did not say "backslide." That is a church-ianity term. There is only one place in the Bible I am familiar with that mentions "backslide" and that in Proverbs. We have to be careful about using church-ianity phrases because they often have corrupt meanings.

The backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways: and a good man shall be satisfied from himself.
-Pro 14:14

The problem is that, if you look up mainstream "Christian" sources, you will find that they use the word 'backslide' to refer to someone who has "fallen away," and Jesus told us that someone who has fallen away is someone who has no root of salvation in their heart.

They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
-Luke 8:13

Yet, the modern-day "pastors" and church buildings use these terms to mean something other than what the Bible defines them to mean. These church-ianity terms are often passed around with false teachings attached to them, which means we need to learn the Biblical terms, what they mean, and try to avoid using what mainstream so-called "Christianity" is telling us to use.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: My Journey to Jesus

« on: March 25, 2021, 10:26:09 AM »

That does make me ask, is repentance a one time event? Is it a process, or something i have to do constantly ? What happens if i still sin?  If we constantly sin, does that mean we have to Grieve and Wept (repent) for our sins all the time?

Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
-Heb 6:1

Which is not to say that we are abandoning the principles (i.e. first teachings) of Christ, but that we have established them, and then go on to more complex things and greater responsibilities. One of those principles is the foundation of repentance, which is a foundation laid in our hearts.
See more on the Biblical definition of perfection here: http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/perfect.php

There are sheep that go astray, but if they have come to repentance and faith at any point, they are still sheep. However, Jesus has to go get them.

And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
-Mat 18:13

And the correlating verse explains more details of what that means:

I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
-Luke 15:7

Thus, repentance is an ongoing foundation laid in our hearts, by which we have as children of God when we sin against Him.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
-1Jo 1:8-9

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: How "Conspiracy Ministries" Warp the Minds of Their Listeners

« on: March 23, 2021, 10:21:38 AM »

The one mistake I made is that I should not have said that "only one of us has talked about the Bible," because she did mention Scripture. But if you look at the context of what she was talking about, that was the problem I was referring to, and I should have phrased that much differently... however, I was trying to avoid getting into this subject with her because she did not want to hear.

When she quoted this: "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men"

She was referring to the context she set beforehand: "Mainstream Christiandom is blissfully “Standing With” and blindly supporting the Anti-Christ/the Synagogue of Satan"

The context of what Jesus was talking about was this:
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
-Mat 23:23-24

If the context fit what she was talking about, then it would have said, "ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and turned my holy house into the synagogue of Satan"

This is why I did not even acknowledge her quoting Scripture because it was clear that she did not understand it, and even the verse Joshua mentioned from Hosea is indeed one of the handful of verses that "conspiracy ministries" quote from; they have a small arsenal they use to justify what they're doing. They are not that far off from the deception of the creation ministries in that regard, namely, that they spend most of their time focusing on "scientific studies" rather than the Bible, thinking that studying physics or chemistry is the equivalent of a Bible study, in the same way that the conspiracy ministries study classified documents and think that's a Bible study because they quote Revelation alongside it, when the truth is that most of them have no basic understanding of Christ's Gospel.

For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
-Heb 5:12-14

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello, my name is Vince

« on: March 23, 2021, 10:02:48 AM »

If you want to know what it means, look at the correlating verses:

But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
-Mat 13:23

And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.
-Mark 4:20

But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
-Luke 8:15

You will have to be more specific in your question if you want a more specific answer. (i.e. Just ask the question you want to ask.)

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What's New @ CLE / (WEEKLY TEACHING) Corruptions of Christianity: Catholicism p24

« on: March 22, 2021, 03:44:12 PM »

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: How "Conspiracy Ministries" Warp the Minds of Their Listeners

« on: March 22, 2021, 11:26:31 AM »

Much of what I'm going to say here is how I would respond to these things, but I did not do that with her (assuming it's a 'her' because I cannot tell from the letter 'K') because she would not understand.

From your Articles, I perceive you to be honest, sincere & fairly well studied/thorough in your presentations. However,
Okay, before continuing, let's address that sentence. This is a very common thing I receive from those who want to argue against me. They start out with a perceived "compliment" in one short sentence to try and warm themselves up to the person, in which they believe I'm going to be flattered in some manner, and then they spend the rest of their letter mostly berating me because they want my writing and audio teachings to match their personal thoughts and feelings. What they do not understand is that I can very easily see through these forms of flattery, and rather than warming themselves to me, I am immediately on guard against them as soon as they say "however," because I know instantly that the first sentence was a lie.

In fact, I can prove to you it is a lie by her own words later. Watch this:
LETTER 1: "From your Articles, I perceive you to be honest, sincere & fairly well studied"
LETTER 2: "I have not researched your site... you obviously do not really know your Bible.  You also have no idea who God's People really are and who they are NOT."

If I do not know the Bible, then how can I be "fairly well studied?" If I have no idea who God's people really are after claiming to be saved and having knowledge of the Word of God, then how can I be "honest and sincere?" These statements contradict one another, and therefore, the comments she made in the response (after she got angry that I rejected conversation with her) is what she REALLY wanted to say from the start. I would have had far more respect for her if she had just begun by saying those things. That's why I had no interest in having a detailed conversation with her; it just would have wasted my time. I don't mind going over it with you guys because I know some of you will get some discernment and understanding out of these exchanges.

What likely really happened was that she read some of my articles, or listened to some of the teachings I did on a hot topic she wanted to hear about. Maybe Freemasonry or something like that. After listening to or reading some of it, she realized how much more well-researched and polished it was compared to the normal "conspiracy ministry" sites she had seen; however, there was one big problem for her, and that was that the facts which I listed out in my teachings did not correlate with other things she learned from maybe someone like Alex Jones or others like him, and therefore, her thought was to write a letter in an attempt to stuff as many concepts as possible into one short email to try and get me to change my writing or teachings to match what she wanted to hear, which resulted in her letter being "jumbled," even though she argued it was not.

jumble: to mix in a confused mass; put or throw together without order

I said her letter was jumbled. She insisted that it was not. I'll let you all read and decide for yourself.

She obviously respected me because of the work I did, but she wanted me to be like her. I am still baffled why people think that if they write a letter like this to someone, it will change everything. It changes nothing. I frequently listen to people and get irritated by their willful blindness on certain issues, so you know what I do? I may skip the part so I don't have to listen to their nonsense, I may close their teaching entirely so I don't have to listen to them anymore (because that is my free choice), or I write them a message explaining the problem of THAT SPECIFIC TOPIC (i.e. not a jumbled letter) and then give references to where they can find more information, and if they don't want to hear, that is their free choice (i.e. I don't write them a response and tell them how ugly or horrible they are); it's not my responsibility to make them hear.

Based on what I have seen from her letters, it sounds to me like she is upset that I have not covered every single topic of everything that is going wrong with this world. I AM ONE PERSON! I cannot do everything. I know of organizations that have entire teams that cannot do all of that either. Frankly, I have no idea what peoples' expectation of me really are.

Furthermore, it also seems as if she is upset that I spend too much time going over Bible doctrines, and not enough time going over the secret plans of the New World Order, while at the same time, telling me that I don't understand the Bible.

Next, look at the topics she lists out:

New World Order - I have mentioned that before in my audio teachings.
COVID scam - I have mentioned that before in my audio teachings.
Vaccines - The United Vacci-Nations
Billy Graham - Wolves in Costume: Billy Graham
Traditions of Men in Churchianity - I talk about those things ALL THE TIME!
501c3 - 501c3: The Devil's Church
Freemasons and Shriners - Freemasonry: A Luciferian Beacon

These are just some of the things she mentioned. She could have easily done a keyword search any time in the past two years and found many of these things. Instead, she chose to be lazy and not do any research to find out, and she relied on her ASSUMPTIONS about what I teach and believe, and that is the danger of "conspiracy ministries," in which they rely much more on inference than fact. This is not to say that there is not a New World Order because the fact is that the Georgia Guidestones are factual information on that subject, but everything they do behind closed doors is not fact until we have factual evidence to back it up.

I think some of you might be surprised how open I am to information, but you may have confused that with my skepticism of assumptions and inference, rather than hard evidence. I am not saying I have never made an assumption or inference, nor am I saying I have never made a mistake in that area, but through those mistakes, I have learned to do better.

Most of the people who write me have never written an article teaching or had to put any information out into the open public where they will be held accountable and scrutinized for what they say. Therefore, they do not understand (nor do they tend to care) about such responsibility to get information correct before releasing it, and they instead delude themselves to think their jumbled letters have value.

"I do not know what you think about Zionism"
I have no idea what she's talking about, and frankly, I don't care. I have heard the term, and I think I looked it up one time, perhaps a few years ago, and I did not pay any attention to it, nor made any effort to memorize it, which means it was probably nonsense that I did not want to waste my time on. I don't find any listings for "Zionism" in Scripture, so I don't really care. If she wants to carry a "don't believe in Zionism" message to people, that's fine. I have work to do, and I'm going to get back to it.

If you guys have any other comments, feel free to post them below.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / How "Conspiracy Ministries" Warp the Minds of Their Listeners

« on: March 22, 2021, 10:37:21 AM »

Please note the date of the first letter, versus the date of the second letter. This is exactly what I received.
K. HART FROM ALABAMA - MAY 11, 2019
Dear Mr. Christopher, I have taken the time to write you an important letter that I would like you to read and comment on, but it will take two emails to get it all to you.  I need to first know if, I have contact with you.  If I can send it from my regular email address, above, I may be able to get it to you all at once.
Please Respond, Thank You,
Okay, I have responded.
K. HART FROM ALABAMA - MAR 20, 2021
From your Articles, I perceive you to be honest, sincere & fairly well studied/thorough in your presentations. However, I am not sure if you fully understand the Enemy or how the Enemy is infiltrating & manipulating the World Order. The Enemy’s Deceptions & Lies have affected God’s Children & all their Societal Affairs from the beginning.  This most recent Global PLANdemic and Sham of the 2020 Presidential Election (including the Media’s “orchestrated” Distractions and tons of Lies, Propaganda, False Flags & Psyops throughout Trump’s 4 years) ought to ALERT any thinking Person on how entrenched and all-encompassing the Anti-Christ/Satanic World System has become & how strongly the Evil One’s advancing World Order (& World Domination) is successfully swallowing up all that is Right & Good, while enticing innocent, ill-informed Peoples into drinking the Kool-Aid (or taking the Vaccine)!

Disappointingly, due to the skillful influence of corrupt Christian Icons (like Billy Graham) or ignorantly Duped Evangelists, Preachers & Christian Leaders… Most all of Evangelical Christianity (of which I was part of as a former well-studied & adequately-indoctrinated Southern Baptist of over 20 years) and including most all Mainstream Christiandom is blissfully “Standing With” and blindly supporting the Anti-Christ/the Synagogue of Satan!  Many of my Siblings totally fail to see what is happening right before our Eyes!!  They are seeped in the Doctrines & Traditions of Men, just like many were before, during and after Jesus Christ’s Ministry.  “Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men…”

Many sincere Christians understand the Bible as they have been taught to understand it, but few actually “thoroughly” do their OWN Homework. As was happening in Hosea’s time, Our Father’s Children are being destroyed for lack of knowledge! Putting aside the lies about not paying attention to or being involved in Politics (resulting from Senator/President Johnson’s 501c3 scam), in order to truly be effective, we need to be more open to sharing rather than blocking our perspectives (no one can rightly discern the TRUTH or full picture without at least considering all the possible Evidence).  We need to be better informed in Politics, History, Science, Technology, Economics, & Religion to see how all the parts of the Devil’s Deceptive Jigsaw Puzzle fits together!  The New Testament Bible informs us that the Evil one is the “Prince” (some versions interpret it “Ruler”) of this World.  This means Satanic Forces/Minions are able to and have infiltrated every faucet of Society, including Religion! We are constantly being fed with Propaganda & Lies, encouraging us to jump on board with their scheme!  The NT also informs us that Satan can transform into an Angel of Light and his ministers and/or duped minions can also be transformed or masquerade as ministers of righteousness.  Such as… Freemasonry’s Shriner’s Hospital for Children (Satanists and so called “Lucifarians” actually do horrendous things to Children!!) and all the marvelous Foundations of the Elites, such as the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which pretend to be out there for good while in REALITY they are working with & for the Anti-Christ New World Order System (closet Eugenicists, playing god, through their Wealth, Vaccines & GMO experiments and Food)!
After stepping outside of the Southern Baptist Umbrella (without malice or grudges) and into an unbiased, intense, unending passion for TRUTH above all else of at least 15 years so far, which has involved the continual Studying & Testing of all things that I Blindly accepted as TRUTH; I can honestly say I am stronger in my Faith, richer in Biblical Precepts & more discerning about Worldly Affairs than I ever imagined possible. While I am always open to considering possible Evidence to clarify my Perspectives, I know this Fact beyond a shadow of a doubt:  My fellow Siblings… who are truly within our Father’s Family throughout this Earth… need to fully open their eyes to this one thing in order to BEGIN to see things more clearly and to rightly perceive the Devil’s scheme (if it is not too Late!!)—the Heresy of Christian Zionism!!   “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”

Christopher, I don’t think bulk/highly informative correspondence by way of internet is very safe.  There is a lot of Censoring & Spying going on through various forms of Media and Social Communication sites such as Face Book (which I am not a part of). I know this sound paranoid, but we are at War…even if we don’t realize it!

Wishing You Continued godly Discernment,
I will only comment by saying two things:

1. You obviously have not listened to much of what I teach, as I have covered many of these subjects in various teachings, on our forum, and among our church meetings and Bible studies, but I have no desire to get into these things with you via email correspondence, especially because (based on your jumbled letter) I cannot say for sure if you even understand what it means to have "godly discernment."
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
-Heb 5:12-14

2. Because of that, it is likely that this ministry is not the right place for you because our focus is on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Since your focus seems to be more heavily on the conspiracies of this world than the understanding of Christ's Gospel, you might be better served elsewhere, so you should probably move on from us and keep looking, and I'm sure you will find an organization with which you can better relate.

Have a great day.
30 MIN LATER; BOLDED BY THE AUTHOR
Christopher:  Everything is a conspiracy!  There is a difference between conspiracy fact and conspiracy theory.  You don't even know what I have to share and yet you shut me down because my approach & content is different. You sound like a mainstream news media sound bite-- yelling out "Conspiracy Theory!" to end the conversation and discret the messenger.  I suppose you think Fox News is Truth you can depend on. But my letter was not jumbled.  It was clear to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear.  I do not know what you think about Zionism, but if you support it you obviously do not really know your Bible.  You also have no idea who God's People really are and who they are NOT.  No I have not researched your site, but it is simple just to state your position on Zionism.  Instead you attack me personally which is what arrogant type Chistians tend to do, when confronted by truth they are not ready to consider. You present a lot of info that Christians would balk at... but I have found through my own research much of what you present, and I believe it is mostly accurate.
3 HOURS LATER, BEFORE I HAD RESPONDED
Wow! Your ugly response is not one I expected. Everything is a conspiracy!  There is a difference between conspiracy fact and conspiracy theory.  You don't even know what I have to share (right from the Bible) and yet you shut me down because my approach & content is different. You sound like a mainstream news media sound bite-- yelling out "Conspiracy Theory!" to end the conversation and discredit the messenger.  I suppose you think Fox News is Truth you can depend on and that Republicans are more Christian than Democrats!  Well Guess What it was a Republican President who signed in the satanic Talmudist Noahide Laws into Law in 1991--President Bush (the daddy Bush!). I suppose You think America is in Good Shape and Our Constitution/Rights are not being attacked by every President, including Republicans. But my letter was not jumbled.  It was clear to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear.  I do not know what you think about Zionism, but if you support it you obviously do not really know your Bible.  You also have no idea who God's People really are and who they are NOT.  If you don't know this than I doubt you truly understand the Gospel.  No I have not researched your site, but it is simple just to state your position on Zionism.  Instead you attack me personally which is what arrogant type Christians tend to do, when confronted by truth they are not ready to consider. You present a lot of info that Christians would balk at... but I have found through my own research much of what you present, and I believe it is mostly accurate.
I'm sad you are incapable of departing in peace. I don't like having to block people, but I've dealt with people like you before, and I know how this ends. You are a person who claims others "obviously do not really know" the Bible, and yet, in these short emails, only one of us has talked about the Bible, and the other has not. I'll let you do the math.
And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word, And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
-Mark 4:18-19

I'll be filtering your emails out of my system. I do hope you have a great day, and I hope the Lord Jesus Christ blesses you and your family with all your needs in the coming months.
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
-1Pe 3:9
END OF DISCUSSION
This is why I have warned you all about "conspiracy ministries." As I have said many times, conspiracies exist, and there are many of them, but this is the warped mind of a person who has left the Bible and jumped off the cliff into conspiracy realm. You saw what she said (and I believe she said it twice) that "everything is a conspiracy." There was no specific context she gave to that statement, but rather, she STARTED her letter with that statement, meaning that she does not believe ANYTHING is real or honest. In my opinion, based on the many letters I have received in this manner, I believe this is the end result of listening to the Alex-Jones-type of "conspiracy ministries." I may make more comments about what she said in the comments below.

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Bible Discussion / Re: "Know Your Enemy" video playlist by The Fuel Project

« on: March 19, 2021, 12:36:18 PM »

Likely, this will be the last comment I will make on Mark Fairley and "The Fuel Project," but it occurred to me last night to look on his YouTube channel to see if I could find some of his doctrinal teachings, so we could find out what exactly he believes on some more foundational issues. He has almost nothing along those lines.

The Fuel Project is a prime example of a "conspiracy ministry," which typically consists of man who is (at the very least) leavened, if not a false teacher, who has little to no understanding of the doctrines and philosophy of Christ, who spends most of his time "interpreting" Revelation without understanding the principles of Scripture, and does so in the typical "conspiracy ministry" fashion; for example, saying that "fire and brimstone" in Revelation infers "nuclear weapons."

Don't take my word for it, get it from the horse's mouth:
https://youtu.be/Hcu7hbMIRd8?t=72

This guy selects topics by popularity, (meaning that most of his videos are click bait), and then does his best to intrigue his listeners by using words and images that are hot topics. I guess you could call it "sensationalism," and it's a lot of fluff with no substance.

sensationalism: the use of shocking details to cause a lot of excitement or interest

It's a lot of nonsense spoken by a man with a fancy accent that is looking to get clicks, views, and likes by using shock value to trigger the emotional excitement of an unsuspecting audience. I'm not saying that everything he says or teaches is wrong, but I am saying that there is lot of error and leaven mixed into just the few videos I saw. I'm not interested in listening to him any further, and I would not recommend this guy to anyone who is looking for Biblical understanding.

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Bible Discussion / Re: "Know Your Enemy" video playlist by The Fuel Project

« on: March 17, 2021, 03:48:50 PM »

So looking into Mark Fairley's doctrine, I decided to go to some key points. The first being his doctrine on repentance. Now, the problem with Fairley is the same problem that I see with a lot of other leavened preachers is that he does not define what he means by what he says, and therefore, we have to infer what he means by the way he uses the words he writes.

For example, in a teaching he has called "DAVID HYPOCRISY VS. SAUL HYPOCRISY," Fairley makes many statements about Christians needed to "repent," but never defines what that means. However, we can infer that he believes that 'repent' means "to turn from sin" by the way he uses the word in the context of his sentences.
https://thefuelproject.org/blog/2018/5/14/david-hypocrisy-vs-saul-hypocrisy

And yet here's the important thing: when David was confronted about them, he confessed and repented immediately saying, "I have sinned against the Lord." (2 Samuel 12:13) David then promptly recommitted to principles he believed in and he lived those principles out.

So you can see how he is defining repentance as "turning from sin" because he talks about how David was "recommitting" and "living principles out." This is not to say that we ought not to turn from sin, but again, Fairley is using the wrong definition of repentance than what Scripture uses.

We can see it again here:
David repented quickly of his sin; Saul didn't. That David was a better repenter than Saul is the only reason we think favourably about David and not of Saul.

The phrase "better repenter" implies a work of action. Do we say that a man is a "better laugher" than another? Do we say that a man is a "better crier" than another? No. We say that man is a "better worker" than another, and therefore, we can see Fairley hidden works-based philosophy; it's just that the average reader won't catch that without discernment from God's Word.
Is Repentance Part of Salvation?

He says other phrases like: "they are no longer "Davids" who confess and quickly repent of their attitude"
The problem is that repentance is a complete change of attitude itself, and so his phrase is redundant, unless he's defining repentance as "turning from sin."

I also find it amazing how he ends the article by saying that repentance is the key to the whole thing, but then when I search his site, he has almost nothing on repentance. He has 11 short paragraphs in which he doesn't define what he's talking about, and that's it. Something smells fishy here.

I tried looking up his position on a lot of different subjects, like tithe, Greek lexicons and concordances, speaking in tongues, and other various things. I cannot find any information on his site about any of this stuff, so it's very difficult to tell what this guy believes about a lot of things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDDGl79x4Pc&list=PLCED9C361662866BD&index=1
So now, because I cannot figure out what he believes about a bunch of doctrines, I have no choice but to go the playlist suggested, so I'm going to part 1, and all I can say in the first minute is that if Fairley is trying to "preach the gospel" in "creative and inspiring ways," he needs to learn volume control on his videos so I don't have to crank up the volume to hear him speak, and then get my ear drums blasted out when he starts playing rock music a few moments later.

Okay, after watching "part 1," it was a complete waste of time. It was a really terrible song put in front of a bunch of images and topical words. *sigh* Next... on to part 2...

The next thing I'm noticing is what I see in a lot of preachers who adhere to new-age corrupt bible versions, and those who deceive their listeners by telling them what the Bible says, rather than quoting the Bible. That's exactly what he does in his blog as well. I'm not saying he never quotes Scripture, but it seems to be a rare occurrence. Most of the time, he gives references to the Scripture, but does not quote it.

He's also using a lot of imagery to influence people, and I also get red flags in my mind when people do that as well.

Okay, so now he's going into the physical appearance of Lucifer, attempting to describe it to lay a foundation for his argument. The problem with what he's arguing is that Lucifer USED to be beautiful, meaning, past tense. Fairley is speaking present tense.

I think Fairley may not have studied enough on this topic before making his video. God made Satan a serpent in Genesis:
And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
-Gen 3:14-15

Of course, Satan can make himself to appear as other things, even an angel of light, unto the eyes of men...
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
-2Co 11:14
...but God took away Lucifer's natural beauty during the fall. If Lucifer was naturally an angel of light, then why would he have to transform himself into an angel of light? Read the past tense:
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
-Isa 14:12-13

Then Fairley brings us to what he says is "Ezekiel 28:12-13," but I think he referenced the wrong verses because he quotes verse 15 from his corrupt new-age version:
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
-Eze 28:15

Again, past tense. So Fairly is taking what once was, and then applying it today as if Lucifer is still the same as he once was, which is incorrect. But worse still, he titles this series "Know Your Enemy." That's... I don't even know what to say to that. It's not wrong to misunderstand something or make a mistake. Certainly, I have done that many times, but when we have someone join the forum and immediately jump in to say, "Hey everyone, enjoy this" as if he has discernment on the matter, I have to point out the problems with such videos to try and protect the rest of the church from being deceived.

I'm sorry, I know I'm only 90 seconds into part 2, but I have no interest in going any further. To me, I see someone who studies new-age bible versions, and I suspect he relies on Greek grammar dictionaries (although I don't have the evidence of that yet), gives incorrect references at the beginning of his teaching, and then gives incorrect information when interpreting it. On top of that, I cannot find basic doctrines on many things, and the guy says he's been doing this for almost a decade.

I think "The Fuel Project" is leavened, and I think people are going to get a false gospel from it. I think Fairley's true motivation (based on his own words) is to try and artistically style the Bible because imagery, music, and video editing is his true passion, and he wants to be a part of the "conspiracy ministry" crowd. He thinks being a "conspiracy ministry" and making "cool vids" is what will make the gospel of Jesus more attractive (i.e. it gets him views, likes, and donations), and that is based on a lack of understanding about the Gospel and the workings of the Holy Spirit.

I hope that helps.

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Bible Discussion / Re: "Know Your Enemy" video playlist by The Fuel Project

« on: March 16, 2021, 07:01:54 PM »

When looking into "The Fuel Project," I initially could not find much that was disagreeable, but that was because if you simply look at the website, they give generalized, vague statements in most of what they say on the surface. Their statement of faith is very cookie cutter, and non-specific.

However, there are some initial problems I'm seeing, and I haven't even looked at any of the teachings yet:
"6. What Bible translation do you use?
Mostly the New Living Translation (NLT) or the English Standard Version (ESV). We also use BibleGateway to check multiple versions so you'll occasionally see others."
http://thefuelproject.org/about-us

That's problem number one. It is very difficult to sanctify oneself from the leaven, when they are studying books that have leavened the Bible. I wanted to look into a few more details on that, but there is no search functionality on their website as far as I can tell, so I'm going to have to go about it another more complicated way.

Mark Fairley, the owner of The Fuel Project, has a teaching where he exposes the origins of Catholicism:
http://thefuelproject.org/blog/2019/10/23/answers-episode-16-whats-the-difference-between-catholicism-and-christianity
However, he ignores the fact that the Bible versions he is using were based on manuscripts that were approved by the Catholic Church. So he's happy to rebuke the Catholic Church, but doesn't want to let go of those things which help him appear to have intellectual credibility with the "theological community."

See Why I Use The King James Bible for more details.

That was just the first red flag to me. The second red flag is that the entire front page of his website is a list of "Buy Now" buttons to purchase books and DVDs.

The third red flag for me was his "About" page, which, once again, has nothing about the Lord Jesus Christ. Take a look for yourself:
The Fuel Project began around 2011 and exists to spread the gospel in creative, beautiful, and inspiring ways. Whether that be through books, videos, photography, music, or art, this ministry is to be a source of information, inspiration and most of all, a source of fuel that ignites real change.

TO-DATE, 150 PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN TO SAY THEY BECAME A CHRISTIAN AS A DIRECT RESULT OF OUR WORK.

I say "our", because as the ministry has grown over the years, volunteers from around the world have joined together to make this a truly team effort. Animators, musicians, artists and designers have offered their services to enhance the books and videos produced by Fuel. Indeed, the eventual aim is for The Fuel Project to become a creative hub for all kinds of gospel work, with around 4-5 full-time team members. 

Key to our vision is the "Fuel Network", which is continuing to expand in every continent. We are inviting churches and small groups around the world to join together to make a commitment to true discipleship. The Bible says we're not just to be hearers of the word, but doers also, so although we love that people are watching our material, we don't want it to stop there. We want to see Christian groups rise up in local communities to apply Biblical principles wherever they live. The Fuel Network acts as an online directory that allows Christians to connect with each other for this purpose.

You'll find out more about this ministry as you go, but if you have any questions, feel free to get in touch using the form at the bottom of this page. All video series to-date are accessible through the home page too!

Finally, if you'd like to support this ministry, you can do so at patreon.com/thefuelproject. Donations are also possible using the button at the top right corner of this screen. If you'd like to volunteer your skills too, please do! There are positions available on the “Volunteer” section of this website. We'd' be happy to hear from you.

Well, I suppose that Mark Fairley does not believe that Christ or His disciples "spread the gospel in creative, beautiful, and inspiring ways." The way this is phrased, it certainly comes across to me that he has to come up with new ways to "spread the gospel." This not only is indicates that he has ways that are different than Christ's, but it indicates that new ways are necessary, and it indicates that the Holy Ghost is not the one responsible for converting people.

The problem with putting a number of how many people claimed to have been saved from your work in huge bold print on your "About" page, it creates a few problems. First of all, that depends on what Gospel Mark is preaching. I don't know that yet, I'm still looking into this as I go. Many church buildings have comment cards saying "check this if you were saved" and then they add them to numbers, put out bulletins claiming that they got 200 people saved at an event, and the entire purpose of publishing those numbers is to GET MORE RESPECT AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT. It creates prestige to which people respect him because he's got a fancy website with a 150 number.

You'll notice that I don't put such information on our site because it's irrelevant. Certainly, I've had quite a number of emails of people telling me they came to Christ because of what I preached to them, but in the end, they were saved by the Holy Ghost, not by me. Therefore, I don't need to impress people with a number count, so that set off another red flag for me.

The next red flag is this statement:
"We are inviting churches and small groups around the world to join together to make a commitment to true discipleship."
That's his stated goal. Not to bring people to Christ, but rather, he's trying to light a fire under churchgoers. He does not understand that the "fire" he is searching for in peoples' hearts is only given to them by God. He is not acknowledging false converts, and he is not trying to save people as he trying to get them to "make a commitment," and I think that's part of the problem with Vince, as I pointed out in his introduction thread just today.

I'll give you an example, and this comes directly from The Fuel Project website of what Mark believes is a "good example" of a 2-min testimony, from this page:
http://thefuelproject.org/volunteer
Here is the video:
https://youtu.be/h6Ixcunq28o

All this man said was that he was into a lot of criminal activity, then some people preached to him in prison, he "responded to the gospel" (whatever that means), and now he preaches in prisons. That is not a conversion testimony of any kind; it did not testify of much of anything. He basically spent 90 second talking about all the crimes he committed, and then in the last 30 seconds, it was like he was good to go, but there was no repentance of wrongdoing, no guilt of sin, or the blood of Jesus Christ; nothing of the sort.

This is another red flag for me.

See Why Millions of Believers on Jesus Are Going to Hell for more details.

So, that's just an introduction post concerning the subject of The Fuel Project, and I have not yet even touched on the doctrines Mark Fairley has taught yet. We have a problem already that Vince does not seem to know enough about Scripture to know if he is saved, but then assumes he has enough discernment to tell everyone to "enjoy" his suggestions without knowing what or who he is recommending to everyone. That's the danger I see in these kinds of posts from people who have just joined our forum; they do not do enough research and just heap unto themselves (i.e. pile up a bunch of) teachers without caution, thinking that everyone else should do the same.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
-2Ti 4:3