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What's New @ CLE / (BOOK) Feminism: Castrating America
« on: Today at 01:11:26 PM »
How the Feminist Movement Has Destroyed the Liberty of Americans by Persecuting Men in the Family Unit

Feminists have taught us that women are oppressed, abused, and cheated in America, but the truth is the exact opposite. Women have been sheltered, protected, and valued to the point that the American woman is the most privileged creature to ever walk the face of the earth. This book documents hard facts to prove that feminism is abusing and destroying the already under-privileged men in our society, and they break down families through lies and manipulation.

What's New @ CLE / (TRACT) Jail Ministry and Prisoners
« on: Today at 01:06:05 PM »
One of the men in our church, who evangelizes to prisoners, got together with me, and we developed a tract to hand out to prisoners. I have heard some preachers teach fervently that tracts are useless, but these preachers have obviously never been in the prisons because the prisoners ask for them frequently to have something to read. I hope this will help any of you who are called to preach to those in jail. You can download it free here:

I renovated this small section of our teaching: Beginner's Guide to Tribulation & Rapture
I previously had said the Pre-Wrath teaching was in error, but Pre-Wrath is correct to Biblical doctrine. Here is the update:

The concept of "Pre-Wrath" isn't new; it's a new name to distinguish itself from other false doctrines. Pre-Wrath is actually Post-Trib, but there are a lot of people who have confused the seventh seal of God's wrath as part of the tribulation of the saints, and that's not what Scripture teaches.

Before I explain this, I want to apologize and correct my error a few years ago; teaching that Pre-Wrath was incorrect. The problem was that I listened to the arguments from men like Kent Hovind (who I rebuke today for his leaven and false doctrine in many areas), and the only argument he presented for the Pre-Wrath position was that Christians were not appointed to wrath:
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
-1 Thessalonians 5:9

This was not a sound argument alone because the Lord God can, and has, poured out his wrath on wicked people without touching one hair on the head of his elect. (e.g. The Exodus of the Jews from Egypt, the lamb's blood on their doors, etc.) However, the wrath of God on the Day of the Lord is a separate event from the tribulation of the saints and the rapture of Christians on Christ's return.
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
-Revelation 6:12-13

As we learned earlier in this teaching, the sun, moon, and stars going dark is one of the signs of Christ's return to rapture out His saints. Christ describes the persecution of the saints, and final antichrist declaring himself to be the Messiah in the temple.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
-Matthew 24:29-31

It should be noted that right after those verses, Christ tells them to learn the parable of the fig tree. You'll notice that the stars falling to heaven in Revelation 6 are described as "a fig tree," and so it seems God wanted everyone to be able to see and understand this as easily as possible.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
-Matthew 24:4

After this rapture happens (the bodily resurrection of the saints and all are seen to be taken up into heaven), God opens the seventh seal. There is a span of silence across the heavens for 30 minutes, then His wrath comes down hard and furiously on the unbelievers and false converts left behind in the world, and He does this through seven angels He sends one at a time.
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
-Revelation 8:1-2

So the tribulation of the saints and the wrath of the God are two separate events. The tribulation happens during seals 1-5, the sixth seal is the sign for the return of Christ, and after His return and rapture, then the seventh seal is the wrath of God on the world. Thus, Pre-Wrath is the same as Post-Trib, only that some people have chosen to give it a new name to distinguish it from a variety of false doctrines that have arisen over the past two centuries.

General Discussion / Removing Some Accounts
« on: Today at 12:27:18 PM »
I made a post yesterday saying that people would need to update their profiles with the proper required information, or they would be removed. I'm going to start removing accounts now. Don't worry, you can just make a new one; only that now you'll be forced to fill out the required information to make an account. Everything should be running smoothly, and I'm just adding in a bunch of stuff that was lost during the transition; your accounts should be good to go now, and you can make posts as you please.

Oh, and a heads up; I made it so that now your gender is required, and it will show up on your posts. I find that it is important to know in certain contexts, and so everyone's required to provide that information now.

General Discussion / Update
« on: February 19, 2018, 04:52:57 PM »
I'm working out a lot of kinks, but I've got the profile fields mostly setup now. I've got security protocols mostly back in place. The smileys were not loading, now they should be working properly. I also added in a feature I wanted to add in a long time ago; the "seedling" image that appears next to your posts will gradually grow into a tree as you increase your total amount of posts. I just never got around to working on that, so I finished, and setup the various levels for it. The tree will grow up to 1500 posts.

Someone sent me an old archive of the forum, but the problem with that is that each post has to be individually coded in. It does help that I can go back and copy/paste, but I still have to go find the image sources and do all the BBC coding involved in each individual post. I may do that for some of our larger articles, but I'm simply not going to sit here for days trying to recreate every post we had. I've just got too many other more important things to work on.

I've been working on this for the past 9 hours, and I'm getting a little burnt out.

Smiley test:  :o

Oh, and if anyone hasn't updated their profiles with the required information by tomorrow, I'll delete your account. Don't worry, you can always make a new one, but I want to get everyone up to par ASAP.

General Discussion / Edit Your Profiles
« on: February 19, 2018, 03:28:32 PM »
If you've already made a profile, you now need to edit it. There is specific information, namely your "FIRST NAME" and "BELIEF" that need to be changed. A first name is REQUIRED on this forum, and will appear on all your posts. Also, if you made a profile before I published this post, your default belief will read "ATHEIST," so you need to go in and change that ASAP.

You can edit your profiles for now, but later I'll be changing it so only admins can edit those fields. This is to prevent people from trolling in the future. Thank you for your patience while I get things back online.

General Discussion / About "Can I Help?" Emails
« on: February 19, 2018, 02:22:10 PM »
I've been receiving a number of emails of people asking if they can help. Let me try to explain why I have not responded to those. Basically, if you can understand, and know how to work with, what's written in the following link, then you can help me:
If you can't, then I'm on my own. That's why I haven't responded.

General Discussion / Re: Do we need to reintroduce ourselves?
« on: February 19, 2018, 02:04:05 PM »
I'd just like to get everything working properly. I don't even know if I'll have to delete certain accounts and have people remake them. I had mods installed on this that I've lost and I can't get back, and a bunch of security protocols and rules and on and on it goes. I just got this active so you all can communicate with each other again.

General Discussion / NOTICE! - Everything Reset
« on: February 19, 2018, 12:54:49 PM »
Due to the fact that our previous domain registrar closed their doors without informing me, I lost everything on the database. That means that all accounts, posts... pretty much everything was lost when I had to do the transfer. Now the domain and web servers are on the same company, and that's a company that's much more reliable. I hope this doesn't happen again, as this is the 3rd time I've had to do this reinstall. It is extraordinarily frustrating to me to have to redo all this work again. I've made this functional enough that you all can make an account, talk to one another, and there's a nifty new title bar at the top. Outside of that, I'll slowly work on getting stuff fixed over time. You'll see various changes happen, and if you're seeing errors, missing buttons, or images that aren't loading, you'll have to wait until I get to those things one step at a time.

(Btw, that include all the links I had setup for discussions both on our articles, and on our Sat Night Chat sessions, so all those links will no longer work.)

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