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General Discussion / Re: Shalom. Torah Study.
« on: Today at 12:56:14 AM »
You're using the Catholic bible. The NASV is the Catholic-approved corruption of God's Word. We use the King James Bible here. If you're not comfortable learning why what you're using is a corruption of God's Word, then I don't think this forum is the right place for you.

Why I Use The King James Bible

Okay, you're a convert to Judaism. That's means you don't believe what we believe, and I do not believe you were born again. You may claim that, but I have a very hard time believing you when you don't trust on the He who fulfilled the law. You are instead going back to the ordinances that He fulfilled, and after studying the first five books of the Bible as long as I have, I would guarantee you are NOT following all the commandments in the Torah. So if you thought you were going to find brethren here, you were mistaken. You are, however, welcome to stay and discuss the matter with us, but as for you trusting the Lord Jesus Christ as your justification, your statements contradict that.

Now, it is possible that you learned those things from someone who has corrupted you; I do want you to know that I'm leaving that open to possibility because many have fallen prey to cults, but the manner in which you came to us is not open for questions on the doctrines of Christ, but rather, you are only open to "discussing the Torah." That fact not only makes me not believe you, but I'm also very cautious of why you're here.

The responses on this post have gotten fairly messy, so I'm going to back out. If any of you need me to answer something specifically, email me and let me know.

Introduce Yourself / Re: Rapture
« on: July 26, 2017, 11:47:26 AM »
Sorry, but I deleted his account. His account said he was from Africa, and between his first two posts, he wrote a total of 5 words, which indicates to me that he is not fluent in English. I waited three days after his first post, and he did log in, but did nothing. If he wants to be a part of an English-speaking forum, he's got to speak English. Perhaps I need to add that to the registration agreement, although I thought that would be common sense, and even if I did, it's in English--so if someone doesn't speak it, how will they know? If he had a question that would be answered in English, how could he understand the answer? If he can read English, that's great, he can read the forum, and perhaps when he learns enough English through study of the Word, he can join us later and participate more; he'd be welcome back.

Introduce Yourself / Re: Shalom. My name is Jacob Mertens.
« on: July 26, 2017, 11:40:36 AM »
How long have you believed Jesus Christ is the Messiah? Your introduction post told us almost nothing about who we're talking to. You have, like many others, marked "Other" as your religious belief, and then told us almost nothing about what it is you actually believe. If you were just recently born again, then that's totally understandable, and you can forget what I'm about to say, but if you're coming here as a veteran believer in Christ, then I would say that you don't believe in Christ at all, or you wouldn't be working so hard to "follow the Torah" because if you had understanding of Christ's doctrine and followed Him in it, that would not be your goal.

The part that's making me very cautious of you is that you said you're Jewish and you claim to keep the Torah, but you also said you're learning Hebrew. That doesn't make sense unless you're very young, and even then it wouldn't make sense because true Jewish families grow up learning Hebrew, and we have a 13-year-old age limit to join this forum. Something doesn't add up.

General Discussion / Re: Spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12)
« on: July 25, 2017, 10:37:37 AM »
Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
-1Co 14:1

The greatest things we should desire is charity and prophesying (i.e. the delivering of the Word of God to others).

What's New @ CLE / (VIDEO) Predestination vs Free Will?
« on: July 24, 2017, 05:31:28 PM »

Introduce Yourself / Re: Rapture
« on: July 24, 2017, 02:32:32 AM »
That is not what this section of the forum is for. Please read the sticky at the top that says "READ FIRST"

Christopher Johnson​Starting in 10 min...

Christopher Johnson​It's funny that Josh says "we TRY to discuss..." assuming that we don't always succeed. 😛

anvilhauler engineering​__LOL

anvilhauler engineering​__Retrolental fibroplasia

anvilhauler engineering​__I've been through the hyperbaric chamber a number of times

Virtuous Desires​Can't stand sick care doctors...

anvilhauler engineering​__I missed the first part because Youtube failed.

Virtuous Desires​The doctors basically discounted the findings.

anvilhauler engineering​__Yes, there must be blood flow and oxygenation for the vital organs

anvilhauler engineering​__Hi Ben

Virtuous Desires​__Hey Kev. :)

anvilhauler engineering​__Yep, that's why there are regulations and standards about baby gates

Virtuous Desires​__Don't dare question a doctor's authority Christopher! How dare you!

anvilhauler engineering​__LOL

Virtuous Desires​__What about aluminum?

anvilhauler engineering​__That's interesting about the metals, I must look in to that.

Virtuous Desires​The last I heard, aluminum can only be displaced but not removed.

anvilhauler engineering​__My time in the hyperbaric chamber by the way was just for training and a bit of fun

anvilhauler engineering​__Yes, you did teach it in the pre-flood world

anvilhauler engineering​__re: the windows of heaven being broken open

anvilhauler engineering​__Residual nitrogen dissolving

anvilhauler engineering​__The hyperbaric chamber works brilliantly on surgery patients

Virtuous Desires​I sure wish I could get my wife in one of those chambers...

anvilhauler engineering​__I hope you get the chance to do that Ben

anvilhauler engineering​__These days they are mainly used post-surically and for treating gas gangrene etc

anvilhauler engineering​__surgically

anvilhauler engineering​__I had a major argument about hyperbaric oxygen with a lecturer when I was a student.  I just collated all of the research info and presented it to him and proved him wrong. He was so embarrassed.

anvilhauler engineering​__Wow, NOT using hyperbaric treatment for drowning would be akin to medical malpractice.

Tonya Johnson​Oh my word!!!  I got home in the middle of this and I think. . . "REALLY???" Raw, Hyperbaric Oxygen, healthy diet. . . We ALL need it!

anvilhauler engineering​__Yes, Type 1 is different

Tonya Johnson​I did Chris!! I totally reversed mine!

anvilhauler engineering​__Mix the chopped raw food with olive oil

Virtuous Desires​Ha ha, I juice raw beets sometimes.

Virtuous Desires​You mean I can still have my pork pepperoni Little Cesar's Pizza?!

Virtuous Desires​Anyone else getting angry about now?

anvilhauler engineering​__The FDA are just so way out of line.

anvilhauler engineering​__Hyperbaric oxygen is harmless

Virtuous Desires​many nurses and most doctors are completely apathetic when talking natural cures. Even yesterday, talking with a nurse. They just don't care.

What's New @ CLE / (DISCUSSION) #024 Hyperbaric Oxygen Revives Girl
« on: July 22, 2017, 09:18:50 PM »

Paganism & Witchcraft / Re: Christianity's 'Own War On Christmas'
« on: July 22, 2017, 12:41:04 PM »
Oh, and it's interesting she didn't give a link to what she quoted. Have you guys noticed that people typically only do that when they disagree with me? (i.e. they don't want anyone to go back and read the whole thing) However, someone internet savvy knows they can copy/paste the quote into a search engine and find it.

Paganism & Witchcraft / Re: Christianity's 'Own War On Christmas'
« on: July 22, 2017, 12:32:11 PM »
I find it interesting that the only times she used the word "conviction," she was quoting someone else.

I checked out the author a bit, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression I got is that she's a former Catholic turned atheist. She claims she was formerly "evangelical," so perhaps she went from Catholicism to Protestant to Atheist?

Am I wrong to say she's trying to, as an atheist, defend the traditions of Christmas? Unless maybe I got it wrong and she's a pagan? I didn't see pagan influence in her writing though. There's a lot of stuff in her beliefs that are really contradictory, so... I'm going to get back to work.

What's New @ CLE / (VIDEO) Atheism: Everything You Need to Know p6
« on: July 17, 2017, 06:04:40 PM »

What's New @ CLE / Re: (DISCUSSION) #023 Racist Pastors vs Coca-Cola
« on: July 15, 2017, 09:31:02 PM »
Jeanne was correct; that's another thing I taught wrong.
And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me?
-Gen 27:36

What's New @ CLE / Re: (DISCUSSION) #023 Racist Pastors vs Coca-Cola
« on: July 15, 2017, 09:21:30 PM »
Christopher Johnson​Starting in 9 min...

anvilhauler engineering​__Hi All

jephte louis​Hi everyone

anvilhauler engineering​__Hi Jephte

Virtuous Desires​Personal responsibility.

anvilhauler engineering​__Coca Cola forced the drink down their throats LOL

Virtuous Desires​I know, right? Pepsi got me and forced me!

anvilhauler engineering​__LOL Hi Ben

Virtuous Desires​Hey, Kev. Can't stay long, gotta be up super early for work.

Charizard Gamez​ineedhelp

anvilhauler engineering​__Hi Ben. Good you're here for even a short time anyway.

Virtuous Desires​Maybe they'll do a documentary like "Super Size Me" with a 30 day diet of just cola!

Virtuous Desires​Poor Christopher.... He's gotta be getting a headache every Saturday from the non-sensicle world....

anvilhauler engineering​__The topics from the news being so crazy is what makes it so entertaining.

Virtuous Desires​I have a feeling I know what these pastors are. What's their names Christopher???

Virtuous Desires​Nevermind, just looked it up! lol

anvilhauler engineering​__Just another "pastor" who has completely not understood what they should be doing as a Christian.

Virtuous Desires​Those pastors are pimping their own church members and their community.

Virtuous Desires​Alright, See yall later. Gotta catch some zzzz's.

anvilhauler engineering​__See ya Ben.

anvilhauler engineering​__Hi Charizard Gamez. I just saw your post. Come along to the CLE forum and people will be happy to be in contact with you and possibly be able to help out.

Cathi Jennex​praying for you @charizard gamez

anvilhauler engineering​__The lawyer will think it is great. They don't care they lose because the lawyer still gets paid.

Christopher Johnson​I checked out the charizard's channel; it's weird because that's the name of a pokemon; he has a new gaming channel and is trying to advertise it as far as I can tell. Pray for him anyway. 😃

anvilhauler engineering​__Jesus gave people bread to eat.

anvilhauler engineering​__It isn't totally necessary for people to take part in the bread and the grape juice in order to be saved.

anvilhauler engineering​__The cause of coeliac disease was only discovered about 2 years ago.

anvilhauler engineering​__The fresh bread will still cause the problem. Hence even home bakers are still at risk.

anvilhauler engineering​__As an interesting side fact. It is a glass transition that causes bread to go hard like a brick.

anvilhauler engineering​__She might have to go to court for the charge and swear on the Bible that she is telling the truth. More irony.

anvilhauler engineering​__Thanks Joshua.

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