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Introduce Yourself / Re: Let me introduce myself

« on: June 27, 2018, 01:38:48 AM »

Hi Timothy

For my usual Bible reading I use ePub files I have created that have the chapter and verse numbers removed and read the files on a KOBO eReader.



For usual reading I have always found the chapter and verse references to be distracting and I prefer to read Paul's letters etc as close to how they would have been written.  It is more than 20 years ago now since I first saw a CD on the front of a computer magazine and it had the whole KJV Bible included.  That was when it dawned on me that I could have a copy of the Bible on the computer as I wanted it because I could copy the text and remove all numerals with a word processor and I could also do fast complete Bible word and phrase searches and also look at the chapter and verse references as I needed to.  I don't think there was biblegateway on the internet in those days and I didn't have the internet at home anyway because I couldn't afford it.

It is only in the last couple of years I changed from the KJV to the AKJV and created new ePub files after having a small discussion about it with Chris and Jeanne in the forum here shortly after I joined.  I do have to admit that the AKJV is way better because it is arranged in to paragraphs. 

The only books I haven't completed creating new files for is Psalms and Proverbs.  They have been on my to do list for over a year now.

Anyway, if it helps in any way to make Bible reading easier I can highly recommend eReaders especially the KOBO Glo HD.


Rgrds

Kevin

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Let me introduce myself

« on: June 26, 2018, 04:09:04 PM »

Hi Timothy

Good to see you back.  I was wondering what had happened to you and was hoping you were OK.


Kevin

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello Everyone from Los Angeles

« on: June 26, 2018, 04:04:26 PM »

Hi Marcia

Welcome from me too.

Kevin

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General Discussion / Re: roswell ufo or a balloon

« on: June 23, 2018, 07:21:23 PM »

This is pure speculation, but I believe the 'alien agenda' has been pushed and become mainstream for a reason.

There are powers and entities that have been pushing for a one-world government for several centuries now. I'm sure you've all heard of the Illuminati and various other 'secret' organisations.

When these entities want to unite people against a common enemy, they always create a 'bogey man', so don't be surprised if one day they manage to stage an 'alien attack' to get the whole world to accept a leader who will 'save them from the menace.' This person will probably end up being the Antichrist.

Yes, there is certainly a reason why the agenda is being pushed.

Another possibility is that they will try to make out that they left the earth before it was destroyed in a cataclysmic event that wiped out everyone else and now they have come back and they have all the knowledge about man and how they should live in peace etc. 

The good thing is that the general population will have the truth told to them by people who can not be harmed and can not be hushed.

Revelation 11 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

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General Discussion / Re: roswell ufo or a balloon

« on: June 22, 2018, 07:35:24 PM »

Hi Billy

The most important knowledge to have on the subject is that there is no such thing as aliens from elsewhere in the physical universe.  When people believe in aliens then they are doing that from a belief in 'evolution' and therefore believing that life can spontaneously form on its own.  In actual fact even the most simple living things are very complex and it is totally impossible for those complex systems to come together all on their own as the result of normal physical reactions.  All living creatures can only ever come about due to God's creation.

I have a degree in biochemistry and genetics but that isn't required for the knowledge that evolution is totally impossible as Chris has written a number of excellent articles that covers this.  Jeanne and Tim and as far as I can see, everyone else on the forum is fully up to speed on the topic too and so the science degree doesn't get used amongst the people here but is mainly used when dealing with others out in the workplace and the wider community (much the same as for Paul the apostle using his Roman citizenship when convenient).  Those with Ph.D's can easily try and dismiss the usual members of the public, but they can't do that with me.

http://www.creationliberty.com/articles.php#Evolution

I work in the science field in laboratories and take every chance I get to challenge work colleagues and anyone else about the false beliefs of evolution. As far as I can see, such people only want to have such ridiculous beliefs because the existence of God to whom they are accountable is the only other option and also that around the world the 'universities' are so evil and tied in with the rest of the evil world system that many will not go down that road because they will hinder their future job prospects.  It is my opinion that such people are being willingly rebellious against God and stubborn on all fronts for taking such a stance in the face of what the evidence clearly shows.

1 Samuel 15 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

So coming back to the whole Roswell thing.  Just more lies and deception to add on to the huge and ever growing pile.

It is quite likely that in the future the whole alien thing may be pushed a whole lot more and will possibly be a great deception that we may expect to see.

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General Discussion / Re: What religion claims God is a woman?

« on: June 15, 2018, 07:40:26 PM »

They are people who are not desperate for answers and they have no eager desire to find the truth and the last piece of material they would ever want to read is the Bible but they want to call themselves Christians and have others call them Christians too and not be challenged on their false doctrines.

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General Discussion / Re: HEALTH, healing after surgery

« on: June 15, 2018, 07:34:37 PM »

Hi Masha

Good to read you are recovering well.  I pray that you make a full recovery.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Giants & the nephilim

« on: June 15, 2018, 01:17:35 AM »

Yes, I agree 100% 

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Bible Discussion / Re: Giants & the nephilim

« on: June 14, 2018, 04:29:23 PM »

I think your posting might have got chopped off due to that bug in the software so I put in the reference again.

Acts 5 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them, 28 saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.
29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. 30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

I have often wondered where Paul was while Jesus was doing His ministry.  I don't write that in any kind of accusing way.  If he was a far off and he heard the news he may have written it off as fake news or a conspiracy theory.  When he was persecuting the Christians, surely he must have either been informed of Jesus' miracles or perhaps even met some of those whom Jesus had healed etc.  Interesting stuff.

Any of this stuff I write I write it with forethought so that it can not cause doctrinal disputes in the church but rather that it even just more of the discussion of what we already know that there is wheat and tares and even of the wheat plant there is the wheat and the chaff and that the tares and the chaff are both going in the fire. 

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Bible Discussion / Re: Giants & the nephilim

« on: June 14, 2018, 02:17:02 AM »

Ooops I messed up with the sending of that second posting again.  In that case the one that got deleted is gone for good.  Not too much of a problem.

I wasn't thinking the skulls were of giants.  I'm puzzled though by the genetics of the giants and then by these elongated skulls that are found around the world.  The size of the foot prints of some of the giants and also of the reports of the skeletons gives the impression they were of huge proportions.  Unless they are all fakes.

https://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&biw=1429&bih=944&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=uPchW_2qComm8AX9irTYDA&q=%22giant+footprints%22&oq=%22giant+footprints%22&gs_l=img.12..0l5j0i7i10i30k1j0i30k1j0i5i10i30k1j0i8i30k1l2.6692.6692.0.8025.1.1.0.0.0.0.545.545.5-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.1.542....0.scEMobMIk5M









Fakes?  Well someone has gone to a lot of work if they are and you would really need a CNC (Computer Numerically Controlled) machine with diamond tools to machine these in to rock if they are.  Someone would have had to go to a lot of trouble for very little gain.

That there have been the giants and the creatures with the elongated skulls does make me question if these creatures are God's creation or something that is the result of the work of satan the devil.

Naturally it makes me puzzled about Jesus words

Matthew 13 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

That does make me wonder if there are "people" around today who may not be of God's creation but are the work somehow of satan the devil.  I truly am puzzled as the whether the wheat and the tares are both mankind.

John 8 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father.

Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

It is interesting that Jesus spoke this way to the religious leaders but then later He recruited Paul who was a murderer and also a pharisee.  Surely Paul of all people would have been described as a child of his father satan the devil but he wasn't.  God could have chosen lots of other people but He chose Paul.  Was Paul one of God's creations but the others weren't and so they could never be used.


Matthew 3 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

The wheat and the chaff come from the same plant.  I get the impression the tares have already been dealt with by this time and thrown in the fire and now it is time to separate the wheat from the chaff. 

My life would be a whole lot easier if it wasn't for the giants and these elongated skulls.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Giants & the nephilim

« on: June 13, 2018, 07:05:08 AM »

I am at a loss to understand where the Paracas skulls do fit in.  The nephilim account does give a possible explanation.  I'm not building anything on it, it is just a possible as I'm at a complete loss to find other answers.  There have been a lot of these skulls found.  Far too many for the universities and others to try to cover up by making them conveniently disappear.

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=%22paracas+skulls%22&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjz0oyVtNDbAhWKzLwKHd5xCq4Q_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=601



These skulls have a vastly different morphology from those of man.  The complete absence of the sagittal suture (front to back crack that closes up years after birth) is striking.  The foramina magnum (big hole) in the base of the skull is also in a different place.

There's no shortage of sites claiming the shape of the skull is due to head wrapping but that still doesn't explain the complete lack of the sagittal suture.  Why was the head wrapping done on those that are proven to be those of man?  Was it to make one's children look more like these other beings that they were living around and these other beings were "in charge"? 

A difference between man and animals is that man bury their dead and these skulls have been found in burial sites indicating that they are most likely not to be the skulls of a type of extinct animal.

These skulls came from some kind of creature.  We know that in the past there were giants and now we have this extra information to contend with as well and the mainstream doesn't even want to admit there were giants. 

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Bible Discussion / Re: Giants & the nephilim

« on: June 13, 2018, 01:58:20 AM »

Guys, forgive me; I hit the wrong button. I messed up Kevin's post and replaced it with my own. I hit "modify" instead of "reply" on my administrator tools, and I didn't realize that's what I had done. I'm really sorry Kevin. I feel like such an idiot.

  That's OK.  I tried to see if I could get anything back this end but alas no luck.  Everybody probably thinks I'm an idiot too for writing the nephilim stuff so you're not alone.

Thus, what you are saying is, "Chris, you are wrong because I have a presupposition that is based on my study of the theories I've learned from other ministries.

But I don't have any firm views on the subject.  For me it fits in to the category of "Wow I don't know about this stuff" and just presented the potential evidence that shows that it could be the case.  I'm certainly keeping an open mind and am still not convinced either way.  Hence I was keen to bring the subject up and get others opinions. 

Notice that you did not go to Scripture to provide evidence that angels are lusting after the flesh of men, because it said "they saw that they were fair." That is that a desire of the flesh, according to the fallen corruption of man.

I wouldn't think it too far fetched to think that fallen angels could also lust after the flesh if it was to create chaos for mankind.  re: desire of the flesh. I have often pondered about the thought patterns that would be involved for the reproduction of mankind if Adam and Eve hadn't sinned.  Sexual attraction but not as we know it.

your desire to believe in the theories of nephilim in the days of Noah

No, it's not a desire, but after reading it I do think "Wow, is that a possibility?".  When I read something like the nephilim stuff I certainly do try to figure out what is fact from what is fiction.  Hence I have left people behind who never check anything out and they think tithing and feminism and Roman Catholicism and all sorts of other falsehoods are OK because they never think about anything or check anything out.

I agree with many of the things concerning the alien agenda that are starting be disclosed, and much of it makes sense to what is going to happen in the final days; so don't misunderstand.

Yes, that certainly is a problem and is going to be more of a problem in the future.

(i.e. Much like evolutionists, they have a theory, and they desire to protect that theory at all costs.)

Except when it is examined and it shows there is no potential theory behind it at all as evolution is totally impossible and has absolutely no scientific credibility and they know it too.  A scientific hypothesis has the potential to be correct and the lie of evolution doesn't meet any of the criteria required of a hypothesis.  They stubbornly refuse what is clearly the truth.

Hence some conspiracies actually are true.  The "education system" conspires to teach falsehood and I also believe that a person or persons conspired to murder John F Kennedy as I totally doubt that he shot himself in the head in that car.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Giants & the nephilim

« on: June 12, 2018, 04:35:48 PM »

*I messed up his post SEE BELOW* -Admin

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Bible Discussion / Re: Giants & the nephilim

« on: June 12, 2018, 06:52:16 AM »

Due to time constraints I'm going to have to write in small postings over a few days.  As always when writing something like this I realize that I may be in error and I stand to be corrected if I can be shown otherwise from the word of God.

Genesis 6 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair
Why does this not say "the sons of men saw the daughters of men that they were fair".  This would just be normal reproduction of mankind if it was the case and God would be happy because it was what He created and had planned. 

when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men
Again if this was normal reproduction it wouldn't even be worth mentioning.  Sons of God implies these beings have been made directly by God and are not the normal sons of men.

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men
So there were giants when only this reproduction happened but not in the normal case when ordinary people got married and just had ordinary children.  So these "Sons of God", why was their DNA different from anyone else's to the extreme that they created "giants".  If they were normal man then they couldn't just change their DNA to suit themselves.


Fast forward to some New Covenant
John 1 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

But going back to Genesis if normal birth made us sons of God then we wouldn't need to be made sons of God through Christ.  Hence, normal birth only makes us sons of men.

Job 1 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. 7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Here's these sons of God again.  These aren't sons of men, these are beings that God Himself has made.

Job 38:4-7 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?
declare, if thou hast understanding.
 
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest?
or who hath stretched the line upon it?
 
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened?
or who laid the corner stone thereof;
 
when the morning stars sang together,
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

The sons of God were present when the foundations of the earth were laid. 

Interesting Note:
Adam was of course a son of God because he had no earthly father.  He was manufactured by God just as the angels were.

Matthew 8 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

Jesus identifies Himself as the Son of man.  Because He is born of a woman as is necessary for Him to fulfill His mission.

I've run out of time but there's plenty here for all of us to chew over.

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Bible Discussion / Giants & the nephilim

« on: June 11, 2018, 07:23:11 PM »

Chris spoke about that in one of our Friday morning (for us) Bible studies. He said that he believes the 'sons of God' were the line of Seth, not fallen angels. If angels are spirits, they do not have bodies so cannot procreate with men.

That being said, scientists at CERN have admitted that they are trying to open portals into other dimensions and they have a huge statue of the Hindu god, Shiva, out the front of their property.

I'm writing from work so don't have time at the moment to do the background work to support my reasoning but at the soonest possible time I'll get on to it.  I'll let the administrators decide if they want it in the general public or the born again Christians only section of the forum.

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General Discussion / Re: The AI God?

« on: June 11, 2018, 04:20:28 PM »

... as it has been hi-jacked by Luciferians. ...

I look forward to Chris' teaching on the giants.  As we know, in the past

Genesis 6 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Not everyone walking around today is necessarily of mankind.  If Satan and his angels have been able to infiltrate the race of mankind in the past by being able to create giants then it is more than likely they are still doing the same today and causing major problems for man.  If they have created beings that today look just like man then we can not distinguish them one from another.

Matthew 13 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Any knowledge of biochemistry and genetics is as good as useless when dealing with this scenario in the world. 

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General Discussion / Re: The restrictions of blood, violence and gore.

« on: June 09, 2018, 01:32:36 AM »

Thanks for the reply Chris.  I totally trust your judgement on the matter.  I hope the postings do spark someone to look in to the subject deeper and it has a positive effect on their life.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Is the bible a book about a chosen race??

« on: June 08, 2018, 08:41:19 PM »

I just assumed Ephraim would have been lumped in with Joseph since he was Joseph's other son but I could be wrong about that.

One of the golden calves that Jeroboam set up was in Dan so I don't know if that would have anything to do with it or not...

Yes, Ephraim and Manasseh both effectively come under Joseph.  Also that it says ALL of the tribes of Israel.  Although Dan was one of the worst tribes of Israel all of the rest were also evil and wicked to the point that they also were sent into exile.

Revelation 7 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Just one of those things of interest but nothing to get too hung up over as it doesn't change the message of the gospel in any way.

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General Discussion / Re: The restrictions of blood, violence and gore.

« on: June 08, 2018, 07:28:59 PM »

Hi Chris

That's a good Charlie Brown cartoon but the scripture quoted is incorrect.  Although we know the meaning of shaking the dust off one's feet may mean to go on and not be wollowing in it, it may cause a problem for a new Christian or a non-Christian if they look up the reference and read that it is not what it says.

Matthew 10 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

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Bible Discussion / Barabbas

« on: June 08, 2018, 08:32:15 AM »

Mark 15 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
6 Now at that feast he released unto them one prisoner, whomsoever they desired. 7 And there was one named Barabbas, which lay bound with them that had made insurrection with him, who had committed murder in the insurrection.

I was having a look at some material online and came across something I had never noticed before.  Barabbas = Bar (son) + Abbas (father) i.e. the son of the father.  More than a coincidence that this is the person who was set free in Jesus' place and Jesus was/is the Son of the Father.