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Bible Discussion / Re: The Curse of Canaan
« on: October 04, 2021, 07:32:04 AM »

Actually, there were lands named after Ham's other sons:

Isaiah 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

Ezekiel 27:10They of Persia and of Lud and of Phut were in thine army, thy men of war: they hanged the shield and helmet in thee; they set forth thy comeliness.


Mizraim is also another name for Egypt. Even today, there is a bank in Egypt known as Banque Misr.


Egyptian bank plans entry to Kenya with eye on East Africa ...

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Bible Discussion / Re: The Curse of Canaan
« on: September 23, 2021, 08:24:38 AM »
Yes, I had re-read the original part of scripture numerous times and could see that it didn't fit exactly.  Jeanne is right about filling in gaps.

Actually, Rowan was the one who correctly stated that we should be careful about filling in the gaps...

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On the giants side of things it would seem unusual that of the people on the ark that God had allowed one of them to have a genetic abberation perhaps as a result of genetic manipulation of man's genetics before the flood.  Having a ticking time bomb on what is a fresh new beginning for mankind doesn't seem to fit.

If there was a gene for giants somewhere among the occupants of the ark, I'm guessing it would have had to come from Ham's wife, as Ham and his brothers all had the same ancestry with Noah and his wife, and of all the descendants of those on the ark, Canaan is the only one who produced giants (at least that we know of). I'm not going to try to pretend to know the mind of God, but it's not like that woman's ancestry was something she had any control over, and since she was married to Ham, God wasn't going to leave her behind because of a genetic 'defect'.

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Bible Discussion / Re: The Curse of Canaan
« on: September 22, 2021, 07:57:23 AM »
of the present day, Canaan was incredibly wicked. As evil as the world is right now, there are still some sexual sins (like incest and bestiality) that are frowned upon. No doubt there are people committing them, but they're still considered crimes. Unlike homosexuality, which is "socially acceptable", most people still find incest and bestiality abhorrent (and rightly so). But Canaan embraced them. Leviticus 18 gives us a long list of forbidden sexual practices (also outlawing child sacrifice), and just before that, God singles out Canaan for special mention:

Do you think perhaps you had the answer there.  If Ham defiled his father and his mother by having sexual relations with his mother and Canaan was the offspring.  That still makes Canaan to be one of Ham's children.

Noah's wife's is also Noah's nakedness.

Leviticus 18 Authorized (King James) Version
6 None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the Lord. 7 The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 8 The nakedness of thy father’s wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father’s nakedness.


That's definitely possible. After all, Moab and Ammon were neighbours of Canaan and similarly depraved. Their foundation was the incest between Lot and his daughters. So Canaan could well have had similar beginnings.

Reuben was judged because of what he did with Bilhah, something that impacted all his descendants:

Reuben, thou art my firstborn, my might, and the beginning of my strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power: Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch. (Genesis 49:3-4)

Now the sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel, (for he was the firstborn; but, forasmuch as he defiled his father's bed, his birthright was given unto the sons of Joseph the son of Israel: and the genealogy is not to be reckoned after the birthright. (1 Chronicles 5:1)

If Ham committed the sin that Reuben did (even worse though, because it would have been with his biological mother), then it would certainly make sense that Canaan was cursed because of that. In any case, this is certainly a sin that God judges quite severely.

I think you're going down the wrong track here. Let's read that passage in Genesis again:

Gen 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: 21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. 22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

This is specifically talking about Noah being drunk and naked in his tent, not his wife. Also, when Reuben defiled his father's wife/concubine, (and other places where sons took their fathers' wives) it is specifically spelled out in the Bible, not left to speculation.

That being said, I've always wondered what Ham did that was so wrong. I mean, did he know his father was naked before going into his tent? Did he know that he would end up seeing his father naked and do it on purpose? Should he have knocked first before going in in the first place? I also have to wonder about Ham's attitude when he told his brothers about it; if he was kind of snickering and joking about it, then yeah, that would have been extremely disrespectful and worthy of reprimand.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello, everyone. New member. Testimony
« on: September 08, 2021, 04:05:34 AM »
And these people don't even see that it is just as much concern for THEIR salvation and to make sure that they know the full truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ as it is to keep leaven out of our own community. This Seth guy clearly showed by his comments on the video that he is NOT of Christ, so naturally, he would reject fellowship with true born again Christians. He likely has never encountered real Christians before and is only familiar with church-goers who neither know nor care what a person's true spiritual state is.

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I just posted a video in the Covid-19 thread that explains why people are so resistant to hearing any of the true facts surrounding this disease and the shots that go with it. You can see that video here:

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/lucid-divide-3-cult-of-nightmares-long-version_p8MKXRdDByL6GAK.html

That video was based on an article entitled The Covidian Cult by CJ Hopkins, and I realised that this article explains a lot of why Ellen G. White flip-flopped on so many doctrines:

Looking in from the dominant culture (or back through time in the case of the Nazis), the delusional nature of these official narratives is glaringly obvious to most rational people. What many people fail to understand is that to those who fall prey to them (whether individual cult members or entire totalitarian societies) such narratives do not register as psychotic. On the contrary, they feel entirely normal. Everything in their social “reality” reifies and reaffirms the narrative, and anything that challenges or contradicts it is perceived as an existential threat.

These narratives are invariably paranoid, portraying the cult as threatened or persecuted by an evil enemy or antagonistic force which only unquestioning conformity to the cult’s ideology can save its members from. It makes little difference whether this antagonist is mainstream culture, body thetans, counter-revolutionaries, Jews, or a virus. The point is not the identity of the enemy. The point is the atmosphere of paranoia and hysteria the official narrative generates, which keeps the cult members (or the society) compliant.

In addition to being paranoid, these narratives are often internally inconsistent, illogical, and … well, just completely ridiculous. This does not weaken them, as one might suspect. Actually, it increases their power, as it forces their adherents to attempt to reconcile their inconsistency and irrationality, and in many cases utter absurdity, in order to remain in good standing with the cult. Such reconciliation is of course impossible, and causes the cult members’ minds to short circuit and abandon any semblance of critical thinking, which is precisely what the cult leader wants.

Moreover, cult leaders will often radically change these narratives for no apparent reason, forcing their cult members to abruptly forswear (and often even denounce as “heresy”) the beliefs they had previously been forced to profess, and behave as if they had never believed them, which causes their minds to further short circuit, until they eventually give up even trying to think rationally, and just mindlessly parrot whatever nonsensical gibberish the cult leader fills their heads with.

Also, the cult leader’s nonsensical gibberish is not as nonsensical as it may seem at first. Most of us, upon encountering such gibberish, assume that the cult leader is trying to communicate, and that something is very wrong with his brain. The cult leader isn’t trying to communicate. He is trying to disorient and control the listener’s mind.

This leads me to believe that White probably knew exactly what she was doing.

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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19
« on: August 29, 2021, 08:21:28 PM »
The following video explains exactly what is going on and why it is so hard to get people to listen to the facts about this so-called 'virus' and the associated shots that go with it. (I won't call them vaccines because they do not in any way, shape or form fit the traditional definition of a vaccine. I say traditional because the medical community has recently changed the definition to include these jabs!)

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/lucid-divide-3-cult-of-nightmares-long-version_p8MKXRdDByL6GAK.html



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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19
« on: August 25, 2021, 09:27:10 PM »
The reason I came on here today was to make one possible observation/explanation for what Trump is doing, and I came to this conclusion before reading what Chris had to say. Trump knows most of his supporters have already decided NOT to take the shots, but he also knows that the people who are against him will do the exact OPPOSITE of anything he recommends. So maybe another psyop to save MORE lives?

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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19
« on: August 25, 2021, 01:36:25 AM »
That bothered me quite a bit, too. If you notice, he got a lot of boos when he said that...

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General Discussion / Re: The Three Little Pigs, revisited
« on: August 19, 2021, 12:39:16 PM »
The same people who did that Three Little Pigs video have just released a new story based on The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

It's called The Boy Who Cried Nazi, and it's fair to say that the ending really packs a punch!  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6vvUpEFsYg&ab_channel=FirearmsUnknown

Love it, though the end was really rather predictable... LOL

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General Discussion / Re: COVID-19 VACCINE
« on: August 16, 2021, 01:38:34 AM »
Here's another doctor (actually, a pathologist) explaining what these jabs do to the brain, heart, and other organs:

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html

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General Discussion / Re: COVID-19 VACCINE
« on: August 13, 2021, 05:36:16 PM »
Okay, Rowan, what you said is great, except for the part about 'hate crimes'. There's no such thing as a 'hate crime'. If someone commits an act of violence against someone else, it's a crime, full stop. Motivation is irrelevant. The whole idea of 'hate crimes' is a very slippery slope because it has been used against those who preach the law and the gospel to anyone who disagrees with it, especially in the LGBTQ crowd.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Returning as guest
« on: August 12, 2021, 08:22:22 PM »
Okay, Troy, I just have to ask; if you don't believe the same thing we believe about repentance and salvation, then WHY ARE YOU HERE? If your goal is to try to make us see 'the error of our ways' or to change what WE believe according to the Bible, then you're wasting your time and you would be better served going somewhere else.

Edit: I didn't read his last post before replying here, so it looks like he's gone already. What a relief!

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General Discussion / Re: COVID-19 VACCINE
« on: August 10, 2021, 05:36:07 PM »
This doctor explains exactly what the jabs are doing to the body and how they are causing blood clots: (The intro is in Italian, but the rest of it is in English with Italian subtitles.)

https://rumble.com/vktn3y-quale-leffetto-dei-vaccini-sillorganismo.html

I didn't recognise the doctor in this video when I first saw it, but I have since learned that this is Dr Michael Yeadon, the former VP of research for Pfizer.

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General Discussion / Re: COVID-19 VACCINE
« on: August 09, 2021, 09:23:05 AM »
This doctor explains exactly what the jabs are doing to the body and how they are causing blood clots: (The intro is in Italian, but the rest of it is in English with Italian subtitles.)

https://rumble.com/vktn3y-quale-leffetto-dei-vaccini-sillorganismo.html

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Law/Legal / Re: COVID-19 Court Victory For All
« on: August 06, 2021, 07:29:34 AM »
Yes, Kevin, this is a really good one! I've seen it a few times now, and posted it in the Telegram group for our church, but I'm glad you posted it here so it's public.

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General Discussion / Re: COVID-19 VACCINE
« on: July 29, 2021, 02:03:39 AM »
I've just been watching this very interesting video. It's Dr Sam Bailey's latest offering, and contains plenty of interesting information and food for thought. She says more about COVID itself than the vaccine, but still makes one or two relevant points about the latter.

In other news, the final stage of the vaccine rollout has been announced for NZ. Our PM also got her second jab, so she's "fully protected" now.  ::) She described getting the vaccine as "an act of kindness", although she forgot to add that the kindness is really to Big Pharma's profits. Because as alluded to towards the end of the video, the pandemic is making some people an awful lot of money ...

I have to wonder if some of these politicians and celebrities getting the jab are really getting the the so-called 'vaccine' or just a placebo. If they're getting the real deal, I have to think they don't really know what's going on and we probably won't have to worry about them for much longer, anyway. I guarantee you that people like Bill Gates will have nothing to do with it, and I doubt Fauci got the real thing, either.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Canaanite wedding
« on: July 28, 2021, 08:16:09 AM »
Kevin, I'm sorry I missed part of your earlier post. How are you feeling now? Any better?

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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19
« on: July 26, 2021, 10:23:52 PM »
The analogy I like is that trying to use a mask to control a virus is like using a chain ink fence to control mosquitoes. There's a reason that when healthcare workers are dealing with deadly viruses they have to wear full HAZMAT gear...

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I forgot to mention that since you disagree with all of these supposedly 'learned' Bible scholars. of course, you must be the one who's got it wrong...  ::) ::) ::)

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So she has a problem with you pointing out the doctrinal errors in her favourite teachers? Isn't that what she asked you to do in her first letter?

I am wondering if you able to help me out with discernment here, as I just listening to this message he preached on repentance, he does not address godly sorrow over sin as you do but a 100% turning from sin.

Sounds like your 'discernment' is only valuable to her if you tell her what she wants to hear, not what the Bible clearly says! And heaven forbid that you ask her to go read a book you wrote on the very topic she was asking about, rather than waste your time answering her directly in an email...

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