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Bible Discussion / Question For Those Who Don't Believe In Eternal Security

« on: July 05, 2023, 08:03:26 PM »

I was reading one of Chris's "Wild Emails", specifically This Man Did Not Want The Truth to Set Him Free .(https://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=1039.0)
It was about John from Ohio sending Chris to a leavened ministry. I was watching the video that Chris was sent and found out why John sent it. https://video.wvbs.org/video/the-thief-on-the-cross/
He was trying to get Chris that Baptism is necessary for salvation by trying create doubts on the "thief on the cross' arguments.
The man in the Video, Don Blackwell, gave three arguments about the thief on the cross:
1. He could have already been baptized.
2. He lived and died under the Old Testament system
3. Christ had the power to speak about man's sins forgiven
He used verses to try and to back his claim like
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:15-16
Of course, he missed the second half of that verse:
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:15-16
It does not say "he that believeth and baptized not shall be damned."

For the next two verses, I have no issue against them.
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Act 2:38

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 1 Peter 3:20-21

Don Blackwell, also believes that one can lose their salvation:https://video.wvbs.org/video/the-truth-about-repentance-asl/

His reasoning was Simon the sorcerer was saved since he was baptized, but he only was baptized since he thought he gain the Holy Spirit and use it for money. So no, he was not saved.
And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money. Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity. Acts 8:18-23

I was thinking about this when a question popped into my head. The question was: Do these people believe sin is more powerful than God's love?
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:38-39
Once God loves someone, He will never un-love them because if he did, why would chasten and rebuke them?
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Revelation 3:19

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Bible Discussion / Re: Jehovah or Yahweh? The KJV is on the line.

« on: July 02, 2023, 10:41:39 PM »

Chris, I changed my mind, I think it needs to be kept because I need to come clean about what I did to all of you so that future can understand what I talking about. Thank you for letting me know but I still feel convicted that I need to bring my sin before everyone.

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Bible Discussion / Caleb's Testimony of Events

« on: July 02, 2023, 10:35:19 PM »

Here is my testimony of events while I began to be in contact with CLE.

When I first came to Creation Liberty, I was much like Daniel in that I was a student of conspiracies, creationism, and politics, but not, a student of the Lord Jesus Christ. I was practically spamming the forum with one topic after another that had to do with one of these three topics.
Spam: disruptive online messages, especially commercial messages posted on a computer network or sent as email

I didn't reply or start a conversation that was about any Biblical doctrine while rarely or never using scripture in any of my topics. Why? I didn't understand the word, I was too lazy to read it, and I didn't know any of it at all. Translation: I knew if I used any of it, I would be rebuked immediately and I believed I could have faith in God through some other method than what is clearly written in the word.
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Romans 3:10-12
To put it simply, I had no faith, no discernment, no understanding, no fear of the Lord, and no love for any of you. All while saying the exact opposite and believing that I was saved because I thought I understood repentance. I believe the Lord allowed Daniel on here to see myself in him and come clear about all of this.
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Romans 8:28

At this point, I would like to thank the rebukes given by Chris and others during this time because they showed how wicked my heart actually was.
Open rebuke is better than secret love. Proverbs 27:5
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9

One of the first cracks that led me to repentance was Chris's article when he first released it:
Hell is Real and Many People are Going There
https://creationliberty.com/articles/hell.php

It was a sobering article that lead to becoming a bawling mess because it showed exactly where I was destined to go without Christ and I was terrified for myself and others. But this was the sorrow of a worldly sort because it lead me to begin trying to clean the outside of my cup.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Matthew 23:25
When rebuked of this, I tried to get into the Word, which ended within a few weeks and I didn't remember any of what I listened to. I listened to the word because I thought I could listen to it out loud while doing something else. It didn't stick at all.

I became to post less and less because I grew increasingly uncomfortable talking to you all because it was increasingly clear how different I was from all of you. The straw that broke the camel's back though was Nate, he was friendly the entire time he was on the forum, and I know why now. I never discussed Biblical Doctrine with him, we talked about creationism, stories, and dinosaurs.
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. John 15:19
He hated Chris because Chris is not of the world but he loved me because I was. To this day, I am still hesitant to respond to new visitors after what happened to Nate.

I barely wrote anything of substance for the most part of 2020-21 because I was ashamed to write anything because I had fallen into a great depression. During quarantine, I barely did anything (besides doing schoolwork) while fulfilling the lust of the flesh. I could have taken walks, helped my family, helped take care of the animals, but I didn't do anything of that. I was a slothful disgusting creature that cared nothing for others.
Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest. How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? Proverbs 6:6-9

In my previous post, I repented in January of 2021 but it was 2022, so sorry about that. That period showed just how wicked I truly am and necessary Christ is for me. I cried myself to sleep begging God to forgive me for everything that I have ever done.
The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. Psalms 34:18
Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing. For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. 2 Corinthians 7:9-10

When I woke up, I felt peace like I had never felt before, and that lasted for two days until I fell back into sin. It showed just how necessary it is to rely on the Lord for everything. I thank the Lord for opening my eyes to the Word of the truth.
But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. Matthew 13:19

I have reread Chris's articles again and again to understand them because I have taught them in error in the past. For example, for a while there I believed repent could mean "to turn" or "to change one's mind" depending on the context. I now know that is completely false and I was telling others false doctrine. I am ashamed of saying that to others.
I have gotten into the Word, I have finished off the new testament, and I am now currently in the old testament, specifically 1 Samuel. I found out that me reading out loud helps it stick more than just hearing someone read it.

So for now I want to thank the Lord for bringing me to all of you, for opening my eyes to the truth, for giving me a love of truth, for His mercy, His longsuffering, and well... everything even though I am absolutely undeserving of any of it. I hate myself for my sin, my wicked thoughts/imagination, how they affect others (most of all the Lord), and how I fall into temptation. As time passes I understand how it feels to be the publican more and more.
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. Luke 18:13

So, I want to hear what you have to say about this. I am ashamed about what I have done to all of you and you all deserve the truth. I am ashamed I couldn't tell all of you this sooner.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Jehovah or Yahweh? The KJV is on the line.

« on: July 02, 2023, 08:15:20 PM »

Oh, you can do that, it's just that Daniel reminds me of what I was like when I first came here and I remember all of the things I had done to the Lord, you, and others. So sorry about that Chris. I feel convicted of needing to write a testimony about what happened on my end to explain why I wrote that.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Jehovah or Yahweh? The KJV is on the line.

« on: July 02, 2023, 04:39:55 PM »

Chris, it's me, isn't it?

I am guilty of everything Daniel has done with parroting information (instead of understanding it), bringing up random topics while not focusing on the Word, showing no conversion to Jesus Christ in my words, and trying to appease others, while not answering any concerns brought my way.

I am guilty of all these things and for that, I am sorry for doing this to the Lord, you, and others on the forum.

I have said sinful statements on and outside of this forum. I had no fear of God in my Heart or my tongue, and I did not bridle my tongue, so I will have to give an account in the day of jugement.
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. Matthew 12:36
If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. James 1:26

When I first joined I thought I was saved, but I didn't understand anything because I wasn't saved.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14

I lied to everyone, including myself, when I joined this forum.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Exodus 20:16
A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin. Proverbs 26:28

I took the Lord's name in vain.
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Exodus 20:7

I even coveted your relationship with Christ, your wisdom, and your ability to speak bravely.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. Exodus 20:17
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. John 3:19-21

I am ashamed for harming the Lord, you, and everyone here with my sin. I should have told everyone here the truth but I didn't because I kept trying to clean the outside of my cup. I am nothing but a hypocrite, not just to you but to anyone I have ever talked about.
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Matthew 7:5

I now know what repentance is and how it actually feels.
The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. Psalm 34:18
But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. James 4:6

I repented in January of 2021 but I didn't want to tell any of you because I was afraid of all of you.
The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe. Proverbs 29:25

I cried myself to sleep with the horrors of my wicked heart laid bare. I saw all of my sins and I can say that I utterly despise myself because of how vile I am. I am thankful for all of your rebukes because it exposes my sin and I am glad you have said this because I now have the conviction to come forward. I will explain this more in another post.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: First Disgruntled Flat Earth Cultist

« on: June 23, 2023, 11:42:43 PM »

Sorry, I have been reading your book but I thought it meant that everything clearly showed that the Lord had created it. Thank you for pointing that out Chris, it really goes to show there is still a lot for me to learn. I am thankful the Lord has granted us the wisdom to understand and reason these issues out.
I read that part about what you said about Psalms 19:1 and you are right, I got that meaning from those creationist organizations. I really do need to study things I thought I already knew the meaning of in the context of the Word.

Here are the verses that fit my original post much better:
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Romans 1:20-21

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: First Disgruntled Flat Earth Cultist

« on: June 23, 2023, 11:11:11 PM »

It's not a sign for those who already believe but for those who do not already believe. You're completely right, it does not affect your salvation. But imagine millions of non-believers suddenly confronted with the undeniable fact that they were created.

Translation: God's word is not sufficient enough to save those unbelievers and only we (the FECs) can open their eyes to the truth.
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 2 Timothy 2:25

The unbelievers are already confronted with the undeniable fact they are created daily.
(To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Psalms 19:1

But many still will go to hell, why? It is because no evidence will ever convert the heart.
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. Psalms 19:7

None of these FEC will ever point to the law as their starting point of faith but the flat earth, which is their true "god".

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General Discussion / Re: Someone has accused Chris

« on: June 20, 2023, 04:36:59 PM »

That's okay, perhaps it would be better to call him Chris(Aus) because he is from Australia. I have seen others do it so that might work.

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General Discussion / Re: Someone has accused Chris

« on: June 20, 2023, 01:07:18 PM »

By the way, Daniel, please remember to call others here by their real name. I have made this mistake in the past, the guy who responded after me is Chris, not "Someguy85".

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General Discussion / Re: Someone has accused Chris

« on: June 19, 2023, 11:53:50 PM »

Daniel, I think keeping it on here is for the best because these conversations are not just for you or me but for the whole church to see and come to their own conclusions.

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General Discussion / Re: Someone has accused Chris

« on: June 19, 2023, 11:12:41 PM »

Daniel, this is Caleb, it is my first time talking to you. I skimmed through the "Creation Liberty Evangelism - Christopher J.E. Johnson Deceptive Teacher" video. I don't think I can watch the entire video. Why? It's because of this:
Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. Acts 24:13

First of all, the creator(s?) of these videos are total cowards because they hiding are behind total anonymity. Why? Because they would face accountability for their actions and allow the accused to answer to the accusations if they came forward.
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. John 3:19-21

Secondly, at no point did the creators ever look at Chris's doctrine. He accused Chris of using these hand signs and that his grandfather was a 33-degree Mason. He teaches that Chris mixes truth with lies but never explains what those lies are.
Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. 1 Corinthians 10:10

Whoever is making these videos reminds me of my "conspiracy days," the days in which I was engulfed in conspiracies. I believed in numerology, hand signs, and other things that often provided no evidence that there was evil. For example, in this video, Chris states that he has 13 plots that have broken up into a 1/3 of an acre there and 2/3 of an acre there. What does this mean? Obviously, Chris is a Freemason because 1/3= 33% of an acre. There is no substance to any of these claims and certainly nothing that would lead men to the truth of the Word. Why? These videos are not designed to do that, they are made to get views, not tell the truth. I don't look for these kinds of videos because all of them are always like this and I don't need any reminders of those days.

I hope this has been helpful to you, Dan, and anyone reading this.
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Proverbs 6:16-19

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (FREE TO READ BOOK) The Heresies of the Flat Earth Cult

« on: May 12, 2023, 09:01:48 PM »

I should also mention I know someone personally who believes in the flat earth and also believes that there is no Godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). The last time we talked I was under to address his questions because I was in the middle of walking my dog and I was totally caught off guard. I didn't know he was coming over that day and I was not prepared in the slightest.
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 2 Timothy 4:2
I fumbled over scripture, couldn't remember a good number of them, and the ones I did remember, I wasn't able to properly explain them to him. It eventually ended in me crying right in front of him due to me being frustrated and ashamed that I wasn't able to get my point across. Thankfully, I had shown his website to him a few months prior because he said he was a fan of Kent Hovind. I gave him your website name and the name of your article. He read it and is now rethinking whether he should go to Dinosaur Adventure Land. I also told him about your articles and I can only pray that God opens his eyes to the the truth.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (FREE TO READ BOOK) The Heresies of the Flat Earth Cult

« on: May 12, 2023, 08:56:49 PM »

Chris, Thank you for creating such a well-detailed and powerful article showing that the shape of the earth matters little to the state of one's heart. I so understand how you felt about creationism and dinosaurs when you were younger that it would lead to a "great awakening" of sorts but evidence will not save souls. I believe that there was some secret message or saying the right things to save others but that was nothing more than pride talking.
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; Timothy 2:25
I believed I could change people, but thanks to the Lord, I now know better and I am ashamed for even believing that.
I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 1 Corinthians 3:6

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General Discussion / Re: Mystery of the Hebrew Roots Cultist

« on: May 11, 2023, 09:08:24 PM »

I need to add some more information I found because I want to let others know about it. But this will be my last update because I need to let it go. I have a ruminating mind in which when I think something I will continue to focus on something even when I am trying to do something else. I will try to make this short about his beliefs and false doctrines. So I just want to get this out of my mind and let others know about his false doctrine.

Joshua Blessed believes owning any animals is a form of Idolatry:

 https://prophecyofyahweh.com/demon-possessed-jezebels-lover-pets
In the comments, someone asked what for advice regarding their dog, his response:

It is not worth to lives as a Devil, for you love the god of this world the Devil by obeying his law of fashion and after you die you shall be with your master Devil ... I saw in a vision > Soon your carcasses shall be as a dung on a field,.. HalleluYah ! Praise to Yahweh !

Joshua Blessed does not believe the Bible is the Word of God:

Can you see it now that, we became His own sheep/people only by hearing and obeying His voice, and not by reading the Bible.  Yet, if you are still blind and cannot see it, then it is because you are not of His sheep.

https://prophecyofyahweh.com/my-sheep-hear-my-voice-and-i-know-them-and-they-follow-me


Joshua Blessed believes most women are possessed by the spirit of Jezebel:

We, who is born from above by the Holy Spirit of יהוה / Yahweh do know, that most of the women is a demon possessed by the spirit of Jezebel [Hebrew: אִיזֶבֶל‎ / אִיזָבֶל‎, Modern Izével’ ] (Queen / Wife of Baal / Lord), for she as Devil hate the name of יהוה / Yahweh !

https://prophecyofyahweh.com/demon-possessed-jezebels-lover-pets

Joshua Blessed believes that any white women that attracted to black men are demon-possessed:

https://prophecyofyahweh.com/heavenly-test-days-noah-great-flood

Joshua Blessed believes Paul made many hypocrisies, lies, blasphemies, and contradictions in his writings:

Shaul / Paul spoke many foolish fleshly words in his Epistles,  hypocrisy, lies, blasphemies,… and contradicting himself in his books,.. by it boasting to be some great one. If you cannot see it, then it is evident to you that you are still carnal/fleshly baby that has not been led by the holy spirit, but by the books and your idol Paul.

https://prophecyofyahweh.com/the-called-apostle-shaul-paul-former-jewish-scribe

Joshua Blessed believes to be saved one must be able to speak in tongues and that salvation must come by force:

You must have a heavenly knowledge by the holy spirit that your sins are forgiven by Yahweh and the holy spirit is upon you by speaking in tongues.  Yet, if not all of these heavenly signs have come to you, then do not give up. You must get these by force of diligent fasting and prayers.

https://prophecyofyahweh.com/thou-must-be-born-from-above

Joshua Blessed does not believe we should love our enemies:

Does the Messiah יהושע / Yahshua (Jesus) > Loved his enemies, blessed them that cursed Him, did good to them that hated Him, and prayed for them which despitefully used Him, and forgave them? Or He rather said this to do concerning of your neighbor brother Israelite? Shame on you pagan – Tares of Romans religion! Repent of your pagan wickedness and turn to Yahweh before you die in your lies, then your eyes shall be opened by His holy spirit and no one shall deceive you anymore again ;

https://prophecyofyahweh.com/love-your-enemy

Joshua Blessed believes the disciples/apostles were not inspired by the Holy Spirit:

       A “spiritual baby” is carnal, idol worshiper and led by the Bible(the books), a follower of the teaching of men the Disciples / Apostles blindly, seeking the fellowship of Churches / Congregations, .. have a form of godliness but have no power to live a holy life; fearful of death, abominable, proud, boaster, unrighteous, unholy, unfruitful,..not know Yahweh.

https://prophecyofyahweh.com/the-law-of-spiritual-growing

Joshua Blessed believes the word Lord means Baal:

The spirit of Yahweh is upon me and he said to me; Let My people call Me > Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים [ʔɛloːˈhim]) ( the living God), but do not call me > Lord / Baal any more, for it is an abomination unto Me… ” Amen.

https://prophecyofyahweh.com/%d7%99%d7%94%d7%95%d7%94-yahweh-elohim-hebrew-%d7%90%d6%b1%d7%9c%d6%b9%d7%94%d6%b4%d7%99%d7%9d-%ca%94%c9%9blo%cb%90%cb%88him-the-living-god-but-not-lord-baal

Joshua Blessed believes he has seen the face of God, the "Devil author Quran", his earthly father from paradise, an angel, and numerous visions:

The three signs of His coming.https://prophecyofyahweh.com/the-three-signs-of-his-coming

And as I looked upon this light, this light illuminated whole my room, and I never saw such brightness in my life. And I heard and I saw, the image of the Holy One of Israel, the Mighty One of Jacob, the Blessed One of Israel. And He came to me a He said to me, “My son, I have died on the cross, because of your sins, for your mother, for your mother begotten you unto death, but I shall give you a life and you shall live forever !” https://prophecyofyahweh.com/the-heavenly-repentens

My 2013 dream: Concentration camp in the USA.https://prophecyofyahweh.com/my-dream-of-2013-concentration-camp-in-usa

I saw a Civil war in America.https://prophecyofyahweh.com/i-saw-a-civil-war-in-america

My father’s visit from Paradise.https://prophecyofyahweh.com/my-fathers-visit-from-paradise

My encounter with the Devil the author of Quran.https://prophecyofyahweh.com/my-encounter-with-the-devil-the-author-of-quran

I could go on like his works based on doctrines, and his blindness on circumcision, but this is long enough. I need to let it go for my sake and for the sake of the Lord. I hope this helps others in some way as I am sorry for focusing on all of this so much. I did feel convicted on letting others know about him but it is very obvious that he is a false teacher. I thank the Lord for giving me wisdom and for the mercy he has shown me.
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. James 1:5

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General Discussion / Re: Mystery of the Hebrew Roots Cultist

« on: May 11, 2023, 10:38:51 AM »

I was doing some more research and found some things that could add context to what he was saying. When he was sending this question:

#2 Do you live by the Bible ( the books) or by His holy spirit ? Answer honestly ..

He was making reference to an article he had written called:

Is the Bible (the books) your idol ? https://prophecyofyahweh.com/bible-books-idol

In which he said,

The Bible (from Koine Greek τὰ βιβλία, tà biblía, “the books”) Which of these “the books” is the “Word of God” as it saying > Joh 1:14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,…” Question is to the wise and foolish > When and where “the books” was made flesh, and dwelt among us? Let the wise and foolish be manifested by it ,… Amen.

Along with this image,
I still don't quite understand what he was saying but I think he is saying that only the Holy Spirit can be listened to (I think?)
This is despite the Word of God being the Holy Spirit:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

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General Discussion / Re: Mystery of the Hebrew Roots Cultist

« on: May 11, 2023, 10:18:48 AM »

Whether someone is alive or not is not the issue... it's simply that these are very serious claims that come with consequences, and what those consequences are is up to the Lord. All I can do is thank Him for His mercy on me, and any others. It is not wise to assume anyone will die because they said something.

Thank you, Chris, I am sorry for saying something so rash. It's just that it reminded me of that charismatic priest that died for saying it and you also mentioned you had correspondence with those in other countries that had gone through similar experiences. I thank the Lord that He lead me to all of you and His mercy on me despite all the things I do wrong. I was afraid for this man because of all the dangerous beliefs he has and I pray the Lord has mercy on him.

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General Discussion / Mystery of the Hebrew Roots Cultist

« on: May 11, 2023, 09:02:35 AM »

I researched Joshua from Virginia, the man who claimed he was "attacked by a siren that came out of his toilet." I was curious to see what he believed and taught. He believes in many false doctrines, and I doubt he is alive today. I say this because he claims that

"ATTENTION ALL VISITORS, THE SPIRIT OF ELIYAHU / אליהו THE SPIRIT OF ELIYAHU / אליהו (MY EL IS YAH) IS UPON ME!"

https://prophecyofyahweh.com/attention-all-visitors
He believes that Elijah's Spirit came down and said to him:

"THOU LOVEST RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND HATEST WICKEDNESS: THEREFORE YAHWEH, THY ELOHIM (GOD), HATH ANOINTED THEE WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE THY FELLOWS…"

His last post was made in February of 2020 and he said the exact same thing there. I don't have a Facebook account so I can't see whether or not he is there. Considering what happened to that Charismatic priest (Tony Palmer) that said he came in the spirit of Elijah, I don't believe Joshua is going to get away with saying that. After saying that he went on this spiel about how others should join him:

THE CIVIL WAR IS COMING TO AMERICA AND THEN RUSSIAN INVASION ON THE EAST AND CHINESE ON THE WEST. MOST OF YOU SHALL DIE AND THEN BE BURN IN HELL FOR THE FRUITS OF YOUR LIFE. ..CHOOSE TODAY FOR WHOM YOU SHALL LIVE, FIGHT AND DIE.  BUT AS FOR ME, I CHOOSE AS ELIYAH TO LIVE, FIGHT AND DIE FOR GOD OF THE BIBLE YAHWEH AS ONE OF HIS SERVANTS.
THEREFORE THE KING OF HEAVEN YAHWEH OF HOST SENT ME INTO THE WORLD TO PREPARE THE WAY BEFORE HIS RETURN AND FINISHED THE MISSION OF JOHN THE BAPTIST. MY BROTHERS. THE KING OF HEAVEN YAHWEH OF HOSTS ORDERED ME IN FEB. 2018 TO BEGIN RECRUITING FOR HIS HOSTS >” HOSTS OF YAHWEH”, AND I OBEYED MY KING. IF YOU ARE WILLING TO LIVE AND DIE FOR YAHWEH AS ONE OF HIS SERVANTS AND NOT WORSHIP THE BEAST, THEN JOIN US.
TIME IS COMING THAT THIS WEBSITE OF YAHWEH SHALL BE NO MORE AVAILABLE ONLINE, THEREFORE BE WISE BY > DOWNLOADING, COPY, ALL VIDEOS, POSTS, IMAGES…ETC. THAT YOU LIKE IT TO YOUR PERSONAL COMPUTER.  AMEN.

I also wanted to talk about that "Host of Elijah" he was talking about, which is actually a militia that he is/was the leader of or just a member of it. He is even teaching others guerilla warfare tactics he found on the internet:https://prophecyofyahweh.com/now-recruiting-hosts-%d7%99%d7%94%d7%95%d7%94-yahweh/the-militia-hosts-of-yahweh-tactical-basic-guidance-of-guerrilla-warfare
Here is the guerilla warfare part of the website: https://prophecyofyahweh.com/now-recruiting-hosts-%d7%99%d7%94%d7%95%d7%94-yahweh
He started this because he claimed the

Yahweh ordered me in February 2018 to start Recruiting for His end-time hosts to build a godly Biblical brotherhood that together we shall live and die for our heavenly father Yahweh and for each other as the Bible said, for it is truly heavenly love

I hope he is still alive so that he can come to repentance, grief and godly sorrow that is. If not, he would be met with this message as soon as he died:
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7: 22-23

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Shalom! WHOLENESS of The WORD of LIGHT WITHIN YOU

« on: May 07, 2023, 10:09:54 PM »

I had to reread what he was saying several times because of how confusing his wording was. From the look of it, he expects others to understand what he is saying without explaining what was said.
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Isiah 1:18
He most certainly was not here to reason with others for the glory of the Lord but for others to worship him as he is a "spiritual person".

Finally, another way to "preach the Good News" of the REALITY of the Kingdom of YHWH is to suggest a person research the Quantum Physics Double-Split Experiment and to grasp that our reality exists first and foremost in a WAVE state of infinite possibilities UNLESS it is specifically being OBSERVED or Watched........and THEN.....Read 1 Enoch.

What does this have to do with the law? Sin? Christ's Identity? Most importantly, Repentance?

On a side note, it is a little funny (at least in my opinion) on his last post, he does not even list any actual verses to even attempt to back him. All he has is a Yahoo search and a keyword search.
Which also falls under murmuring because he does not point to anything specific:

Are you exposing "The Man of Sin?" i.e., FALSE doctrines promulgated by the temporal High Priest POSITION of a man (taught to be infallible) being followed by current day Christians in ways that don't bore your listeners to death?

I AM here to ensure the sons and daughters of men who follow the teachings of men & devils are without excuse:

Are you Hot or is your ministry COLD?

Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. 1 Corinthians 10:10

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General Discussion / Re: The fruit of the Spirit

« on: March 04, 2023, 09:31:43 PM »

On another note, I mentioned this in my first post but who are the others that Anna mentioned?

However, here is some (not all) of the fruit that I and others have seen, heard, read and/or experienced from the CLE church:

If Anna is right, where are these others that agree with her? If there are others, where are their account of seeing these awful acts? Without proof of these accusations, could these even be treated the same as rumors?
RU'MOR, noun [Latin]: Flying or popular report; a current story passing from one person to another without any known authority for the truth of it.

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General Discussion / Re: The fruit of the Spirit

« on: March 04, 2023, 09:01:08 PM »

I was going to accuse her of that but I was worried that I got the definition of it confused and whether these were a case of vague accusations because of her wording. Well, in the end, I should have done so in the first place. Instead, I just pointed out what Christ gave to the church in case of any trespasses between brothers.

Murmur=to utter complaints in a low, half articulated voice

Despite the wording that points to very specific acts like lying or slander, they still are vague because they have no one to attribute any of these actions.

Vague: of uncertain, indefinite, or unclear character or meaning.