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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19

« on: May 21, 2021, 07:20:42 PM »

Recently Chris mentioned that magnets were sticking to the site where people got the jab.
Here is the first video I've seen of it. There are social media videos, and then an investigative reporter on the street asking people if they got the shot, which one, and when they got it.
This looks bad:

https://thehighwire.com/videos/the-covid-vaccine-magnet-challenge/

It's not that magnets are simply sticking; the jab site actually has polarity, meaning that it will push against one side of the magnet while attracting the other side. Those round rare earth magnets will flip over if you try to stick the 'wrong' side to the jab site.

I didn't watch the video but that would especially alert me to fakery.  If the micro-particles have a dipole they will align with either side of the magnet accordingly.  You won't see any flipping over either.  That is even how an MRI machine works.  When you put the patient through the strong magnetic field the dipole moment of the water molecules causes them all to line up.  When micro-particles (water, "vaccine" etc) line up in a strong magnetic field the patient won't be able to feel or see anything that is happening on that scale.

Fakery like this can even be used by those pushing vaccines and commenting how stupid and uninformed the anti-vaccine people are.  Beware, fake videos are quite likely made to push a certain agenda.

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General Discussion / Re: On the Subject of Graven Images...

« on: May 05, 2021, 04:59:53 PM »

When Jesus was on the Earth a scupture was brought to him and he used it as a part of teaching.  The coin of the tribute money had a sculptured image of Cæsar on it.  The teaching was about rendering unto Cæsar the things which are Cæsar’s and unto God the things that are God’s, but Jesus made no mention that it was wrong to make a scuptured image of a person.  We still have some of those coins in museums etc today and so we have a rough idea of what some of the rulers looked like back then.  It's good that no one made sculptured images of Jesus.

Matthew 22 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
Is it lawful to give tribute unto Cæsar, or not? 18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? 19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. 20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? 21 They say unto him, Cæsar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Cæsar the things which are Cæsar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.

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General Discussion / Re: On the Subject of Graven Images...

« on: May 05, 2021, 06:28:31 AM »

Chris also covered the topic very well in one of the recent teachings.  In God's church, to a certain degree there isn't a little book of things not to do, but the Bible does cover the things that are definitely not to be done.

Acts 15 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 that the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 but that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

There is of course also the Law that brought the person to Christ in the first place and so the person would also not be wanting to violate the precepts laid down there such as not stealing and not committing murder etc.  But as Chris taught and I am certain it is correct, that if you think something is wrong and an offence to God then it is wrong. 

I doubt the situation would ever arise where someone needs to create a picture of the scenes where Jesus was on the Earth.  If the listeners are just read the Bible or read it for themselves then they can form the pictures in their own mind.  Hence the phrase that the book was way better than the movie   .....  and no one knows what Jesus looked like anyway  .....  and there is no need to know.

LOL  I wouldn't even waste my time reading junk written by Hebrew Roots people.  But it is of course only from having read it that you will identify it as worthless junk.

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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19

« on: April 05, 2021, 02:12:07 AM »

It was interesting seeing in today's news about Johnson & Johnson having a batch of 15 million vaccine doses destroyed by workers apparently making a mixing error.  I'm wondering if this is accidentally on purpose.

Coronavirus: AstraZeneca kicked out of US factory over mix-up 'that ruined 15 million vaccine doses'
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300269290/coronavirus-astrazeneca-kicked-out-of-us-factory-over-mixup-that-ruined-15-million-vaccine-doses

The fact that this was at Johnson & Johnson still makes me think back to what Donald Trump was saying at the CPAC gathering and the only company he mentioned was Johnson & Johnson and in quite a cryptic sort of a way and also the comments about the FDA in rather a cryptic way too.

http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=1251.msg10744#msg10744
https://youtu.be/4VDZfIvXnzI
At the 8:31:30 mark.

I'm still thinking that Trump knows full well about the danger of "vaccines" injected in to unsuspecting people and has quietly done something about it.

He does go on to mention treatment for people who are sick and I doubt that was about people with some normal kind of sickness.  (c.f. these people are sick.)

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General Discussion / Re: Chocolate Rabbit Solutions

« on: April 04, 2021, 06:45:20 PM »

I only ever refer to this time of year as the "Fertility Festival" and even offer to show people where it mentions Easter in the Bible and the context of it.  They never want to know. 

I was talking further about this yesterday to one of the lifeguards at the pool who is a non-practicing Roman Catholic because he asked me if I was going to be having Easter eggs and marshmallow bunnies.  He knows full well my stance on such things because I have spoken to him so many times about Roman Catholicism.  Ironically he is the lifeguard who is most trying to encourage me to apply to be a lifeguard at the pool.

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What's New @ CLE / Re: (WEEKLY TEACHING) Corruptions of Christianity: Catholicism p25

« on: April 03, 2021, 02:37:20 AM »

While listening to the latest teaching exposing and instructing about Roman Catholicism I remembered seeing this years ago and thought it was quite fitting.

If only it was this simple for those young people, but sadly the attitude expressed by the parents and how they know the organization ignores complaints seems to fit reality.

Priest Off
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mEHUzNWnh5M

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General Discussion / Re: Soldiers Sleep Anywhere

« on: April 02, 2021, 09:39:25 PM »

Kevin - forgive the late reply here but I really wanted to respond because I know exactly what your talking about. Some of the best sleep I ever had while soldiering is when I have been in the most uncomfortable of places. Positioned on the rocks of some desert or in a mummy bag on some frozen ground I always looked forward to rest time. I found it the hardest to sleep when it was so hot and humid that I couldn't stop sweating and it felt like bugs were just feasting on me - Summers in Tennessee/Kentucky and Georgia/Alabama come to mind.

There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked. Isaiah 48:22
Of course my sleep is so much more peaceful now that I trust in Christ.

Hi David

It's good to hear from others who have been soldiers too and to read of their similar experiences.  Even better though to know that like me, they eventually came to repentence and the forgiveness of sin through the greatest soldier there ever could be  ...  Jesus Christ.

Romans 5 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

Amazing Grace

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: I Sent a Letter to Donald Trump

« on: March 30, 2021, 02:48:57 PM »

Same from me as Heather and Dedrick have written.

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Bible Discussion / Revelation Woman Signs

« on: March 29, 2021, 05:53:30 AM »

Since this came up in a discussion a while back I have been thinking of it often as to what the meaning might be. 

Revelation 12 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 and she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Chris gave the clue that it was the church and I could see that, but I couldn't figure out where the moon under the feet fitted in.  Over the time I have resisted the easy way out to read any commentary on it, but in the end I gave in and had a look around. I doubt I would have made the connection and I didn't do a word search for moon because I was incorrectly doubtful it would have given any insight.

It would seem it is a reference back to Joseph back in Genesis.

Genesis 37 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
5 And Joseph dreamed a dream, and he told it his brethren: and they hated him yet the more. 6 And he said unto them, Hear, I pray you, this dream which I have dreamed: 7 for, behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and, lo, my sheaf arose, and also stood upright; and, behold, your sheaves stood round about, and made obeisance to my sheaf. 8 And his brethren said to him, Shalt thou indeed reign over us? or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, and for his words.

9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. 10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth? 11 And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying.

The sun is Joseph's father and the moon is Joseph's mother and the eleven stars are Joseph's brothers.
Although the other eleven did eventually bow down to Joseph, Joseph is one of the twelve stars representing the twelve tribes of Israel.  The woman clothed with the sun is the church clothed with Christ who is the descendant of Jacob.

Re-reading and going through revelation much more slowly and ignoring anything I have picked up over the years I can clearly see now that the burning of Babylon also is likely not a nuclear event but rather the direct work of God Himself judging and burning with fire.  Maybe similar to God's judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: My Journey to Jesus

« on: March 27, 2021, 05:05:16 AM »

Jeanne (and this is open to everyone else) , i do have some few final questions if you dont mind...

What if they are born again, But died without fully letting go of all their sins? For example,  my Mom dies before getting convicted of Christmas (hopefully not!).

I must admit one more thing. Before i was saved, i was  super in to Harry Potter and Netflix's Sabrina.  And not  for the characters and story, but i was literally "hooked" by the portrayal of magic,  and nearly made me want to actually practice it.
  Now of course,  we know Witchcraft is forbidden and i have sinced stop liking these shows (tried watching it again, but the enjoyment factor is  drastically gone).

  But you see, i really still do like learning about World Mythology ,  studying History, and even the occasional Fairytale with fantastical elements. Not to learn witchcraft, or to convert to false religions, but simply for the Stories of it ?

 And so far, i have not been convicted of this. Should i be concerned? Should i be wary of this? Should i also just move to a new interest?
 This is a very similar issue to Chris' Video Game article, and i brought it out to be open with yall.

Ramie, what you're asking makes no sense. I've already told you that celebrating Christmas is no different to any other sin, and who do you know of who has ever completely given up all their sins before they died? As I said before, if your mother is truly saved (and I would seriously question that at this point), celebrating Christmas isn't going to send her to hell, and if she's not saved, giving up Christmas isn't going to get her into heaven.

As far as your interest in history and mythology, you say you haven't been convicted about it, but you never would have asked the question if you didn't think there might be a problem with it. So the best advice I can give you there is to pray about it and ask God to show you if what you are doing in wrong.

Jesus' comments on the matter might also be quite helpful

Matthew 13 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: 46 who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19

« on: March 23, 2021, 05:23:19 AM »

A search for "CDC" "Private Company" brings up a lot of results

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22CDC%22+%22Private+Company%22&t=h_&ia=web

Here is a typical result and gives a lot of insight in to the relationship between the CDC and the pharmaceutical industry.  I chose this article because of Robert Kennedy's stance against vaccination.

Robert Kennedy Jr: CDC Is A Privately Owned Vaccine Company!
Published on September 10, 2020
https://principia-scientific.com/robert-kennedy-jr-cdc-is-a-privately-owned-vaccine-company/

Rather than quoting a lot of the article, I'll just post the link so anyone can read it if they wish to.  It's not too long.

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General Discussion / Re: Another Resignation

« on: March 22, 2021, 02:49:03 AM »

https://www.resignation.info/

Fired By The Military
Kyaw Moe Tun
Feb. 27 2021
Ambassador to the United Nations, Myanmar.

No surprises there.

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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19

« on: March 16, 2021, 02:44:47 PM »

Inventor of PCR Test Said Fauci ‘Doesn’t Know Anything’ And Is Willing To Lie On Television
https://nationalfile.com/inventor-of-pcr-test-said-fauci-doesnt-know-anything-and-is-willing-to-lie-on-television/
Kary Mullis, who won a 1993 Nobel Prize for inventing the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing process later used to diagnose Coronavirus cases, said that Dr. Anthony Fauci lacks knowledge of medicine and is willing to lie on television. Mullis also admitted in another set of videotaped remarks that a PCR test “doesn’t tell you that you’re sick.”

So assuming that Covid19 is real (because no one, not even the CDC, seems to have a culture of it in a lab, which is a requirement to declare that a strain exists), then the numbers they kept force feeding everyone in the mainstream media (numbers which were conveniently taken off MSM after Biden was "inaugurated") are COMPLETE MADE UP. They are based on test numbers that do not work, based on made up cycles by the WHO, and regurgitated to the public to scare us.

This is why, back in Feb 2020 when I told our church this was political, that also said I wanted to change the subject anytime someone wanted to talk about it. I knew we did not have all the information, so I did not want fear-mongering going on in the church. I want to make sure everyone reading this understands that our church NEVER stopped meeting together (and the question was never even raised), we NEVER wore masks, and lo and behold, NO ONE got sick in 2020, so you can either call it the workings of the Holy Ghost, or you can call it basic discernment... both of which, I would say the grand majority of American churchgoers are missing.

I also covered the falsity of the PCR test in this posting and Dr Sam Bailey has done a good series exposing the use of PCR and includes the interviews with Kary Mullis in her series.
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=1254.msg10597#msg10597

We have a PCR machine here at my work that is used for research and I'm even the technician for it.  I have tried getting through all of this information to others here at my work but I can see I'm wasting my time.  They are totally asleep at the wheel.

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Bible Discussion / Re: "Know Your Enemy" video playlist by The Fuel Project

« on: March 14, 2021, 04:23:12 PM »

I was introduced to this video series several years ago. I found it to be a very compelling argument on how Satan has weaved a thread of lies throughout human history.

Many times we feel that we are experiencing something new in the time of history that we are living in. I think this video series does and excellent job of showing that our enemy has been at this a lot longer than that, and his strategies never really change.

This video compilation is easy to digest in individual 5 to 7 minutes sections, but don't be surprised if you find yourself binge watching.

Enjoy at your leisure...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCED9C361662866BD

Hi Vince

Not getting at you in any way.

I'm not too sure that any of the videos could really add on a whole lot to what can be read and studied from the Bible. 

Sure it is good to have teachings but being grounded in the Word of God and along with humility and charity the things around us that are not correct and the consequences of not being correct and not seeking truth is already laid out for us.  When people write accounts of historical people I'm not sure how much can be accurate apart from what we have in the Word of God because I don't know the extent of the written material that was on the Ark.  I suspect that quite an amount is folklore and is of no greater value than what we have in the Old Testament and the gospels.  Jesus himself didn't make a whole lot of mention of much of the history because He knew that the Israelites already had enough documentation in their hands.

The best and most important studies are the ones like Chris has done on how we got our Bible and the trustworthiness of it and that we can trust God to get the most relevant and correct documentation in to our hands.  A good Bible teacher will continually emphasize that you MUST read and study the Bible for yourself because it is the Holy Spirit that teaches but I'm suspecting that the teachers you have encountered in the past didn't do that nor was it important in the churches you have been a part of.

Why I Use The King James Bible
http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/kingjames.php

All of the evil people like the illuminati and the rest of the evil doers were always going to come along  ...  there's nothing new under the sun.  With a good understanding of the Bible and being born again in to the kingdom of God the myriads of falsehoods out there will all become apparent.

If anything I have written here is inappropriate I happily stand to be rebuked. 

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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19

« on: March 13, 2021, 05:30:59 PM »

Here is another excellent video giving details about the "vaccines" and also has some alarming statistics about the harm being caused.

Shot in the Dark - Dr. Sherri Tenpenny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iaKAWWGyWI

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General Discussion / Re: Covid-19

« on: March 12, 2021, 05:09:01 PM »

This is something I was hoping wasn't too far away. 

https://youtu.be/t3P9CYGq9M4
It’s Here - First Court Case Against Mandatory Vaccination - Attorney Interview-t3P9CYGq9M4.mp4

As we know, it is of little use taking any of these issues to the SCOTUS because they are totally compromised, nevertheless those who work in the legal field are working on it and pushing ahead with bringing these violations of rights to justice. 

Also being challenged is the use of PCR as a diagnostic test when it has never passed any test of approval and the wearing of masks.

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General Discussion / Re: Another Resignation

« on: March 02, 2021, 08:17:03 PM »

https://www.resignation.info/list

Further to Chris' posting
http://www.creationliberty.com/forum/index.php?topic=1251.msg10551#msg10551

February 12, 2021
of Bob Chapek, the CEO of Disney, appeared in Federal court early today, charged with ten counts of sexual abuse against two children.

Resigned
Frank Patterson
Feb. 15 2021
VP The Walt Disney Co. USA

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General Discussion / Re: Another Resignation

« on: March 02, 2021, 05:48:29 PM »

https://www.resignation.info/

Resigned
Jeff Blackburn
Feb. 23 2021
Senior VP Amazon.com, Inc. USA

Now that's Jeff Bezos and now Jeff Blackburn who were both in the highest positions in the company both resigned within a short space of time.

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General Discussion / Weather Related

« on: February 28, 2021, 01:56:03 PM »

After hearing Chris talk about the weather nonsense in the media over the last so long, I just had to post this

There are 5 million people in New Zealand.  Often at the beginning of either the summer or the winter there would often be a weather forecaster make claims that we are going to have a hot dry or wet cold summer or cold or dry winter etc.  What ever they would predict, it would usually do the exact opposite.  The weather can not be predicted.  The guy on TV that was a meteorologist that would do the predicting was called Jim Salinger.

Back in 2014 I was in Christchurch from Dunedin where I live because it was when my now deceased mother turned 80.  We were walking through a large shopping area that included a restaurant as I was was taking my mother out to lunch.  It was a hot sunny day

Me:  Wow, what a fantastic day.

Mother: Yes, they predicted that it was going to be hot and settled around this time.

Me: Mum, that Salinger guy wouldn't have a clue in the world, you can't predict the weather like that.

We take about one step further forward and there is a lady about my mother's age right in front of us.

Mother: Oh, hello Betty (or whatever her name was).

Other Lady: Oh, hello Jean.

Mother: {points to me} This is my son Kevin, he's up from Dunedin and we're just going for lunch.  Kevin, this is Mrs Salinger.

{Gulp}  I had absolutley no idea that my mother even knew Mrs Salinger.

Mrs Salinger: Oh, you've probably heard of my son Jim Salinger, he's on TV for the weather.

Me: Umm, yeah, I have heard of him.

Wow, I'm surprised she didn't actually hear me commenting that he wouldn't have a clue in the world.  LOL.  There's 5 million people in New Zealand.  What's the chances that the mother of the person you're just talking about is right in front of you and they are friends with your mother.

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General Discussion / Re: NYT article advocates for people to stop using critical thinking!

« on: February 27, 2021, 04:41:55 AM »

Wow, what a load of hogwash! Like I'm really going to trust Google to tell me whether a source is reliable or not when they're one of the biggest proponents of misinformation there is!

LOL  That was a good posting Caleb.  An extra point added to your edification score for posting that. And I like Jeanne's comment. Not just Google either, but all of those out there in medialand and universities who ignore what is real in favour of following the narrative.  They will vanish back under their rock when things start happening rather than publishing a retraction.