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General Discussion / Re: Peter Ruckman

« on: March 13, 2018, 05:14:26 PM »

So many place names have 'St' or 'Ste' in them. There's a St Kilda here as a suburb of Melbourne, too. And there's a Lake St Clair in Michigan, along with the nearby suburb of St Clair Shores. Not to mention St Louis, Missouri.

No idea who any of these people are supposed to be, though. I'm sure the cities and suburbs were named by Catholics, as they're the ones obsessed with canonising people as saints (who I can almost guarantee were NOT).

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi again from Michigan

« on: March 13, 2018, 03:28:45 AM »

Hi, Sue!

I knew you were from Michigan before, but didn't know exactly where. Redford is right next to Livonia, where I grew up!

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General Discussion / Re: Peter Ruckman

« on: March 12, 2018, 08:13:31 PM »

I've checked out some of the P&P website and the first thing I noticed is that all Scripture references are using the ESV. That right there tells me that while some of what they teach may be valid, there's still a whole lot that is in error.

Looking at their 'About' page, I also saw that they are Fundamental Baptists, which is still an organised church group. I'd almost be willing to bet money that they still celebrate things like Christmas and Easter. I'd be very surprised if they didn't.

I enjoyed this article:
http://pulpitandpen.org/2015/08/20/three-false-gospels-you-may-not-realize-are-in-your-church/

However, I just went to their website and the latest article they posted is titled 'Why Protestants Should Wear Orange -- Not Green -- This Saint Paddy's Day' What does that tell you?

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General Discussion / Re: Has the SciFi genre become the new witchcraft?

« on: March 12, 2018, 08:02:42 PM »

Technology (like any other inanimate object) is neither good nor evil in and of itself. It all depends on the person using it and to what purpose.

I do have a smart phone but that is the only smart device I have or ever will have. I won't buy into this 'Internet of Things' stuff because there is too much potential for surveillance and/or molecular manipulation. (Go look up what 5G will do to your body and brain...)

As for the SciFi genre, it's always been evolutionary propaganda and the idea that people can evolve into something more than what they are or that there are other life forms outside of Earth. The same dangers that are present in fantasy novels are present in SciFi. Ever notice how the two genres are grouped together in book shops?

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General Discussion / Re: The pentagram

« on: March 10, 2018, 06:22:56 PM »

When I was in primary school, the teacher used to draw stars (pentagrams) on papers that were done well. Those were also the only kind of stars I knew how to draw for the sky or even the flag.

However, this does not mean that I would ever go out and buy jewellery or clothing with that symbol because there IS an occultic aspect to it. You should be able to tell from context, though, whether it is meant to be an occult symbol or not.

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General Discussion / Re: Peter Ruckman

« on: March 10, 2018, 08:13:20 AM »

Chris has talked about Ruckman before and mentioned him in both the Catholic article and the Marriage one. I remember discussing him in some of our online studies, too, but don't remember now if it was in the recorded parts or just the chat afterwards. Probably a bit of both at one time or another.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi From New Zealand

« on: March 06, 2018, 06:22:42 AM »

Hi again, Kevin! I'm so glad to see you back here. It's nice to have someone here who is in roughly the same time zone as me. LOL I love your insight and humour and humble spirit towards learning and teaching what you have learnt.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi Everyone :-)

« on: March 05, 2018, 04:50:29 AM »

Dee, it's so good to see you back. You and Josh have truly been a blessing to our church group.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Genesis

« on: March 05, 2018, 04:43:49 AM »

I don't know why my post keeps cutting off. It showed okay in the preview, so let's try this again.

Exodus 6:20 And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses: and the years of the life of Amram were an hundred and thirty and seven years.

The reason for the wait is stated in the last verse you quoted:

Genesis 15:16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

God, in His mercy, was allowing the Amorites and other Canaanites time to repent before using Israel to destroy them.

God allows affliction and many times, it has nothing to do with disobedience. Look at Job. Or even Jesus, for that matter. Just think about what would have happened if the Israelites had never been afflicted in Egypt. They would have been comfortable and not wanted to leave. That's just human nature. We have to get to the point that we are uncomfortable enough to want make a change. People who are comfortable want things to stay the way they are and that is often not what God wants.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Chronological Bible

« on: March 04, 2018, 04:12:59 PM »

Tonya, I think she meant she just got a regular Bible in hard copy, not the chronological one.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Genesis

« on: March 04, 2018, 04:11:47 PM »

I just noticed that a lot of what I said was cut off, too. The rest of verse 20 reads:

Exodus 6:20 And Amram took him Jochebed his father

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings from sunny South Africa

« on: March 04, 2018, 03:56:54 PM »

Good to see you again, Silindile!

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Bible Discussion / Re: Genesis

« on: March 04, 2018, 04:02:57 AM »

This was discussed somewhat in the last forum that is now, unfortunately, lost.

Israel was not in Egypt for 400 years; God said that Abraham's descendants would be strangers in a land not theirs and they would be afflicted 400 years. (Verse 13 of the passage you just quoted.)

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were all treated badly at one time or another by the people of the land they dwelt in. If you read the timeline in Genesis and Exodus carefully, you'll find that it was approximately 400 years (430 years according to Exodus):

Exodus 12:40 Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. 41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt.

from the time this promise was made to Abraham until the Exodus.

The children of Israel sojourned (were not settled) and they dwelt in Egypt but they didn't spend the whole time of their sojourning in Egypt.

Kohath was one of the sons of Levi who went to Egypt along with Jacob and the rest of his family, meaning he was already born before they moved down there. Kohath had a son named Amram and a sister named Jochobed. Amram and Jochobed were the parents of Aaron, Miriam and Moses.

Exodus 6:16 And these are the names of the sons of Levi according to their generations; Gershon, and Kohath, and Merari: and the years of the life of Levi were an hundred thirty and seven years. 18 And the sons of Kohath; Amram, and Izhar, and Hebron, and Uzziel: and the years of the life of Kohath were an hundred thirty and three years. 20 And Amram took him Jochebed his father

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General Discussion / Re: The pentagram

« on: March 04, 2018, 01:58:15 AM »

Hi Gerald,

If you didn't read the rules of the forum when you joined, it states that you must make a post in the Introduce Yourself section so that we know who we're talking to. Please state your name, where you're from, your religious background and beliefs and how you came across the CLE website.

Once we know who you are, we'll be more than happy to answer any questions and/or concerns you may have.

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Bible Discussion / Chronological Bible

« on: March 03, 2018, 11:17:44 AM »

I have a Chronological Bible which I find very useful. It's set up in daily readings so you can get through the whole Bible in a year and passages are in chronological order so that you get one continuous story. This makes it easier to fit everything into a timeline.

Amazon only has this Bible available in Kindle for the KJV. Of course, they have hard copies available for most of the other popular New Age versions such as the NKJV, NIV and NLT...

If anyone is interested in obtaining a copy of this Bible, you can check it out here:

https://www.amazon.com/One-Year-Chronological-Bible-KJV-ebook/dp/B00AEB3D2M/ref=pd_sim_351_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PBVN6XVXH4T44MJJ08GK

Alternatively, I have listed the daily readings out in a Word doc. One document is for printing on A4 paper size and the other is for letter size (8 1/2 x 11).

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General Discussion / Re: Working All Day

« on: March 02, 2018, 04:54:32 AM »

I didn't figure you were slacking at all, Chris. I knew you had a lot of work to do, especially since you said you lost most of a new article you were just about to publish when the website disappeared. So you have to not only completely rewrite that one, but research the other topics you're working on as well.

When you do publish new stuff, it's always well worth the wait and it's amazing to me how you can do all that research, then write your articles in code on the website all at the same time. Many of your articles are the size of a book, too.

I praise God for giving you the abilities you have and the understanding not only to be able to search out the matters you speak about, but to also explain it in simple enough terms to make everything understandable to other  people.

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: Billy Graham's Dead: His Followers React #2

« on: February 25, 2018, 09:42:34 AM »

Gee, Chris, how come you never told us before you were a Fundamental Baptist? LOL

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Wild Emails @ CLE / Re: Billy Graham's Dead: His Followers React #1

« on: February 23, 2018, 12:24:11 PM »

Graham had just as much opportunity to read what you wrote as anyone else did, so I really don't think having someone share it with him would have made any more difference than Rick Warren reading what you wrote about him would. He would have been blinded by pride. I doubt your article would have any influence over Franklin, either. He would never want to admit that his father is in hell.

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General Discussion / Re: What religion claims God is a woman?

« on: February 23, 2018, 11:59:44 AM »

Masha, your post cut off again and we didn't get the rest of what you were saying.

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Bible Discussion / Re: Question on Leviticus 17

« on: February 23, 2018, 11:57:08 AM »

Okay, thanks. I really didn't understand that bit. I also don't fully understand the difference between a sin offering and a peace offering. There's a lot in Leviticus I don't fully understand. Some of it is quite confusing.