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Title: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: Natalie on December 07, 2018, 11:56:41 PM
Are there King James Bibles available in other languages and also can this website be translated in other languages? I know that there is google translate, but I'm not sure if that would make some serious errors.
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: creationliberty on December 08, 2018, 01:45:00 AM
God's Word is preserved in English, and just as in the days of the Old Testament, if someone wanted to read the Bible, they had to learn Hebrew, so today if they want to read God's Word, they need to learn English. Anyone who attempts to translate it into another language will run into problems. Thankfully, English is unlike many other languages which are hard to learn but easy to master; English is easy to learn, but hard to master.

You can try Google translate if you want. It's up to you. However, asking if our website can be translated into another language; I know other "ministries" have that option on their sites, but they pay people to get that done--it's not like we can just slip on a banana peel and *poof* it's there. Maybe I didn't understand you're question, but it seems like you might not know the extent of what you're asking.

Also, this is the wrong board to post this on, so I'm going to move it over to another category.
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: Natalie on December 08, 2018, 06:05:57 PM
So you're saying it's better to teach people English vs. trying to translate it and possibly make errors? I'm just wondering what you're basing your opinion on.

Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: Masha on December 09, 2018, 03:18:42 AM
I believe that there are other translations similar to the King James, translating the Textus Receptus. In Dutch that is the Statenvertaling, in Italian that is the Diodati. There are some variations in those translations, (There is no other way, literal translation from one language into the other is impossible.) I believe in many other languages there are equivalent translations (From the textus receptus) that can be used.
My husband gives out free Bibles in all kind of languages and he always makes sure the translation he provides is the one from the textus receptus. Not all languages have them , but many do.

I kinda understood that Chris said a person should just learn english, to be able to read that KJV. I do not agree with that. The KJV is the most known translation of the textus receptus, but it is not the only one. Besides not every one is able to learn english upto the level to understand the text in the KJ. It is midieval english and not what people learn in a course of english nowadays.

I believe GOD Almighty has provided His Word for His people, and that is not only the KJV. He makes it possible for ALL PEOPLE to read His word.

Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: hashed on December 09, 2018, 07:44:35 AM
This is a very interesting subject. It keeps me thinking for a number of years.

I am used to the fact that most knowledge is not available in the Dutch language. It doesn't make sense to translate books and other text for just a few people who will pay for it.
Automatic text translations is still very bad. Some companies as Microsoft offer this as a 'service', I always choose to show the original text written by people.

I often compare the King James version (1769) with the Dutch equivalent (Statenvertaling 1657). The KJV has a lot of words I still don't know. There are differences between the two.
When there is a difference, the translators often added a footnote / side note, which is the same as the other tranlation.
But I have seen a small number of cases where the Dutch version is just wrong, that is it contradicts itself.

A really big difference is that the KJV only uses a very small number of footnotes / side notes, and does not add any kind of interpretation.
The Dutch Statenvertaling has a lot of extra added text in small print, which gives an interpretation from the translators (although they were ordered not to do so, as far as I understand). This can sometimes be very deceptive, they explain every single word of the text, but still it is wrong (at least different from CLE).
But this also applies to teachers, they can also teach false stuff. People who spend a lot of time reading the Bible, should not have a need for a teacher.

I think that in this time in my country, most people can choose to read the KJV. For non-native English people this might require a lot of extra effort. A dictionary helps.
Some people obviously don't have a choice, for example ones who are in a prison in North Korea. Some only have some handwritten/translated pages of the Bible from family members for example.
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: Natalie on December 09, 2018, 03:16:34 PM
Thank you for your responses.

I've actually been thinking a lot about the persecuted Christians in places like North Korea. I have read that people in China have a sort of underground railroad to help them escape to Thailand or some country to find freedom.
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: strangersmind on December 09, 2018, 05:02:15 PM
I do know the kjv is translate into many languages. There is a Website you can order them from. I would look it up for you but here in philppines we are blocked from many servers. But what I have seen most of the world can speak English. Getting kjb for the people here has been one of the biggest problems. Most bibles are new age catholic bibles. But the best bible to get the people who can speak little English is ones with big print. If anyone has any bibles  (kjv only) in big print who want to donate would be awesome. Old or new even falling apart will be the best thing for them here
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: Natalie on December 09, 2018, 10:30:12 PM
How many of the large print bibles do you need?
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: strangersmind on December 10, 2018, 03:26:05 AM
I do not know we have 2 kjb one of them is 1611. What I will do is see how many families there is in this one church grupe. That way I can try to have 1 in each home.
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: TheChickenWhisperer on December 10, 2018, 12:03:37 PM
I believe that there are other translations similar to the King James, translating the Textus Receptus.

I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Chris said the Textus Receptus was corrupt? 

I agree, learn English and read the KJV.

I have been using a Braille KJV and I love it!
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: anvilhauler on December 10, 2018, 01:01:15 PM
I believe that there are other translations similar to the King James, translating the Textus Receptus.

I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Chris said the Textus Receptus was corrupt?

Hi Tonya

That would have to be the copies of the Textus Non-Receptus  ;) (i.e. the Alexandrian and other texts) that are corrupt.  The Textus Receptus is the good one.
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: creationliberty on December 10, 2018, 01:36:01 PM
Textus Receptus means "received text," or that which God has preserved for us; otherwise known as the "Majority Text."
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: strangersmind on December 10, 2018, 07:34:03 PM
The other text that the new age bibles mostly come from, I won't call them corrupt but rather modern day counterfeit. There is to much evidence against them to be older then 1500s. You should really take a look at them some time. Like the Sinaiticus the first part found was 42 leafs pure white, found in a waste basket but the 2nd part is all old looking and still bound.
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: TheChickenWhisperer on December 11, 2018, 12:02:42 PM
Thank you Chris and Kevin for your correction.  I didn't understand that for some reason.
Title: Re: KJV Bibles in other languages and also this website?
Post by: strangersmind on December 18, 2018, 02:23:38 AM
Here is an update on the family's who need bibles. I have 1 house hold who is trying to get kjv. But the other church might not be tell Jan to get an answer. The (pastor) still taking his sweet time. Right now I have someone on main island looking for them there