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General Category => Bible Discussion => Topic started by: Zoologistkid on August 18, 2018, 09:20:34 AM
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Christopher in your Why I use the King James Bible article, the part about Dr. Frank Logsdon. I at one point tried to argue with my Sunday school teacher that he shouldn't be using his new age bible. I brought up what you said about how the co-founder renounced his work. "In fact, Dr. Frank Logsdon, co-founder of the New American Standard Version quoted in the above chart, wrote a letter to Cecil Carter of Prince George, British Columbia on June 9, 1977, in which he renounced the NASV, and realized the judgment he would face before the Lord God for changing the Bible". But he got a little frustrated and look on the internet his phone about the topic. He found an article from someone and read it. The article explained he wasn't even a founder let alone a co-founder of the Nasv. I just wanted to let you know about this and I hope it elps you out.
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Here's the problem: That's what the NASV founders will tell you today. In any other case, Logston would have been named one of the founders because he did the feasibility study for the project, which set up the system for how it would get done, and he conducted the interviews for the positions that would be filled. For all intents and purposes, he was a project manager, and he therefore would have been listed as a founder if he didn't write that letter condemning it. Thus, if he continues to argue against it, my personal response to your Sunday school teacher would be: "Your ability to use a phone is not equivalent to the ability to do thorough research, and it will not justify your leaven."
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Thanks, Chris, for the explanation because it will help me out. The place where Scott, the teacher, sounded a little suspicious. I and he have butted heads before on several topics, we fought on holidays, the pre-flood world (about carnivores and eating meat), what animals are alive (according to him he doesn't see the verses I am talking about the ones where it says there is life in the blood), and there was one incident where his fiance almost blew a gasket when I tried to explain the origin of wedding rings. We have also fought on false prophets which he has defended (C.S. Lewis, Billy Graham, and others) and like I said Bible versions.
He doesn't like when I try to rebuke others in the classroom, which needs to be done because the other people in there like to play demonic video games, barely show up at times, support a lot of wicked things, and look like zombies at times because they look sleep deprived (signs of having forced to go). One girl, Ally, the Granddaughter of the pastor, looks like she about ready to pass out on Sunday mornings and like the Bible says that correction is grievous to her. She is friends with a girl named Jessica who hates me, I know this because she said to my face by saying I ******** hate you. She has accused me of being inappropriate but when I ask her what I was being inappropriate about she never answered. She has a sister named Amanda, she likes me but Jessica punishes her if she talks to me, sits by me, even when I help her in class! She said that I am arrogant know it all and has given advice to kids about what to do if I try to talk to them. Recently, she said she was going to rededicate herself to Jesus, not long after that she gave me a hateful look and told Amanda to stay away from me.
I have had a lot of bad incidents after receiving the knowledge. The lead Sunday school teacher, Bill, said to me that it wasn't my place to reveal the fact that Santa doesn't exist to a boy. After I told him, he told me that I was lying and proceeded to punch and kick several times but Bill took his side. On Wednesday night, we have church and I help out with the kids. It goes like this food for the kids, then we go upstairs into the youth room where they play basketball, pool, and other games. Then they are forced to sing songs of praise (every time this happens I hear For in vain they worship Me in my head) most of them don't even sing, then we go downstairs and try to teach them (nearly all of them space out and just want to go home). I hear we need to reach the kids but they never think are we reaching them the wrong way.
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Time to leave that place?
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I have to go because of my parents and because I am the only kid that actually goes to help the kids at church. My brothers actually stay at home sleeping during church most of the time.
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Why do they give him an option?
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They don't give them the option, they sleep as hard as rocks and are nearly impossible to wake up. They go to bed late at night while I like to go to bed earlier. I have farmer's hours meaning I wake up early while they wake later in the morning. Mom and dad try everything to wake them up and they usually just take me because they don't want to be later than they have to be.
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Are you not old enough yet to get work and move out on your own?
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Not yet, I am an 18-year old that is terrified to get a driver license because of the fact I am a terrible driver. My nickname is crash to be precise ;D.
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It's fear that's causing you to crash in the first place.
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To be exact I not afraid of driving, I actually crash a lot. I have crashed into the shed, the other shed, dozens of trees, bushes, logs, the barn, the house, the garden, and more and that was just one time I drove the lawnmower. I had to go to my dad to get the mower unstuck from all these locations more than once on several occasions. I terrified of going to a driving test because of my record of crashes.
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Caleb, I don't believe the issue is what you are afraid of (driving/crashing), it is that fear is keeping you from something it seems you want.
2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
(KJV)
Christoper asked if it was possible for you to move out i.e. gain independence from the authority of your parents which seems to be causing some grief to you and I must admit I don't quite understand what driving has to do with that. Admittedly, my cultural context and yours are east and west in the most literal sense so I am likely missing something. When I was eighteen I left home and it is not always convenient but I have never had a vehicle and I rely on public transport to get around. Is there some link between you not being a skilled driver yet and leaving home?
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Smolemong, I believe that I am not ready yet because I have to learn to drive for a job. I am trying to learn how to drive because I would have to get a car. There is no public transportation in my small town whatsoever, no buses, no taxis. I have never had a job before, however, I have helped out my dad and mom in many odd jobs (Fixing air conditioners, helping out with cooking, and more).
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Caleb, I understand your autism may be a barrier to getting out on your own, too, but I'm pretty sure if you continue in your ways of rebuking the false teaching going on in that church building you attend, they will eventually get so tired of it that they kick you out and that problem, at least, will be solved.
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I just got back from helping my dad lug around 200 lbs of propane tanks to refill them. There is one good thing about going to it I can at least try to help the kids but the results have not forthcoming. I once wrote the entire list of inequities on the board and tried to explain every one. But they just made heart symbols and erased a bit of it with their fingers. The kids sure get miffed when I try to explain certain things to them like I have heard one girl say he hates this boy and this girl is about teenage age. I asked her if she really meant that and she said yes, I hate him. I then said if you hate him that means you are committing the sin of murder and she yelled at me that she was not a murderer. These kids are getting the message that you need Jesus, need to pray, or need a number of other things. But never shame, grief, or guilt. In fact, they say once you're in Christ you no longer need those things. They never rebuke anything wicked (movies, tv, or any other thing), the teaching we get come from a place that says we need to be like the superheroes with our faith. That was a slight exaggeration I know but that is very close to reality.